nudist resorts

[Stuart]

I'm sold just on that sign. I want to go there!

[Doug]

Doug,
find any place cool to hang, this past weekend?
GBA

actually just hung out nude by the pool Sat & Sun  :)  my friend Em & I went to my sister & bro-in-law's house ... we had the reggae playing, capt & coke was flowing & we grilled out.  definitely a sweet weekend!

how about you? 

[gbanude]

Doug,
find any place cool to hang, this past weekend?
GBA

actually just hung out nude by the pool Sat & Sun  :)  my friend Em & I went to my sister & bro-in-law's house ... we had the reggae playing, capt & coke was flowing & we grilled out.  definitely a sweet weekend!

how about you? 

Nothing that fun. Just same old, same old....

[Doug]

Doug,
find any place cool to hang, this past weekend?
GBA

actually just hung out nude by the pool Sat & Sun  :)  my friend Em & I went to my sister & bro-in-law's house ... we had the reggae playing, capt & coke was flowing & we grilled out.  definitely a sweet weekend!

how about you? 

Nothing that fun. Just same old, same old....

same old thing?  and that's not fun?  dude go run-a-muck nude somewhere!

[NickUMA10]

i guess i was wondering why?  why no young adults?  anybody have any thoughts?

i think it's been discussed other places here, but my thoughts as to why:

An organized nudist culture which is built around middle to upper middle class middle aged couples. When this is your key membership and customer base, you are going to target them in your marketing over youth--because they are more likely to purchase the pricey memberships. Moreover, i think some resort owners who would otherwise be inclined to try to target younger persons sometimes find themselves b/w a rock and a hard place b/c they don't want to risk alienating their key demographic base by making changes or marketing to demographics that would offend the people already paying the pricey memberships.

From a short-term profit perspective, it makes sense. the problem is when you hit a generational crisis and the middle aged people get old and die out, you haven't introduced new people to take their place. this seems to be what is going on with clubs in the US now. AANR could demand that clubs have some sort of youth program as a condition of their incorporation into the AANR supported resorts, but at this point they seem reluctant to push the issue even as they try to say to younger people 'dive in.' I think that might also have to do with the short-term sustainablity issue (why piss of club owners and sections of your membership base when you're already hurting?).

 So short end to long answer: Too much short-term thinking and toadying to one demographic in the organized nudist world.

[Doug]

i guess i was wondering why?  why no young adults?  anybody have any thoughts?

i think it's been discussed other places here, but my thoughts as to why:

An organized nudist culture which is built around middle to upper middle class middle aged couples. When this is your key membership and customer base, you are going to target them in your marketing over youth--because they are more likely to purchase the pricey memberships. Moreover, i think some resort owners who would otherwise be inclined to try to target younger persons sometimes find themselves b/w a rock and a hard place b/c they don't want to risk alienating their key demographic base by making changes or marketing to demographics that would offend the people already paying the pricey memberships.

From a short-term profit perspective, it makes sense. the problem is when you hit a generational crisis and the middle aged people get old and die out, you haven't introduced new people to take their place. this seems to be what is going on with clubs in the US now. AANR could demand that clubs have some sort of youth program as a condition of their incorporation into the AANR supported resorts, but at this point they seem reluctant to push the issue even as they try to say to younger people 'dive in.' I think that might also have to do with the short-term sustainablity issue (why piss of club owners and sections of your membership base when you're already hurting?).

 So short end to long answer: Too much short-term thinking and toadying to one demographic in the organized nudist world.

yep yep

[Delta]

i guess i was wondering why?  why no young adults?  anybody have any thoughts?

i think it's been discussed other places here, but my thoughts as to why:

An organized nudist culture which is built around middle to upper middle class middle aged couples. When this is your key membership and customer base, you are going to target them in your marketing over youth--because they are more likely to purchase the pricey memberships. Moreover, i think some resort owners who would otherwise be inclined to try to target younger persons sometimes find themselves b/w a rock and a hard place b/c they don't want to risk alienating their key demographic base by making changes or marketing to demographics that would offend the people already paying the pricey memberships.

From a short-term profit perspective, it makes sense. the problem is when you hit a generational crisis and the middle aged people get old and die out, you haven't introduced new people to take their place. this seems to be what is going on with clubs in the US now. AANR could demand that clubs have some sort of youth program as a condition of their incorporation into the AANR supported resorts, but at this point they seem reluctant to push the issue even as they try to say to younger people 'dive in.' I think that might also have to do with the short-term sustainablity issue (why piss of club owners and sections of your membership base when you're already hurting?).

 So short end to long answer: Too much short-term thinking and toadying to one demographic in the organized nudist world.

Unfortunately, most of the modern world has grown to think in short terms. You see that when something gets popular nowadays, its owners keep shoveling crap with minimum production cost (and quality) down their consumers' throat for a quick buck as long as the hype is alive, instead of maintaining a certain level of quality that guarantees long-term survival of the popular franchise.

[NickUMA10]

Unfortunately, most of the modern world has grown to think in short terms. You see that when something gets popular nowadays, its owners keep shoveling crap with minimum production cost (and quality) down their consumers' throat for a quick buck as long as the hype is alive, instead of maintaining a certain level of quality that guarantees long-term survival of the popular franchise.

unquestionably. but, alot of that is predicated on the idea that you have a customer base with cash to spend and that will reliably buy your crap even if it's--uh, crap! the irony with organized nudism is that its had a crisis for a good 20 years now at least, and they are still thinking short-term...failing to broaden the customer base will only hurt them as the economic contraction takes a bite out of their existing membership.

[Toddo]

... and they are still thinking short-term...failing to broaden the customer base will only hurt them as the economic contraction takes a bite out of their existing membership.

Well you could almost say they are thinking in the past. they say "That's how I got into it when I was young, why doesn't it work now?" They do need to move with the times.

[joeyn]

... and they are still thinking short-term...failing to broaden the customer base will only hurt them as the economic contraction takes a bite out of their existing membership.

Well you could almost say they are thinking in the past. they say "That's how I got into it when I was young, why doesn't it work now?" They do need to move with the times.

with both of yall.

They really need to do a better job of outreach to younger people. I think doing so would also change the public's perception of nudist resorts.

Joey

[gbanude]

... and they are still thinking short-term...failing to broaden the customer base will only hurt them as the economic contraction takes a bite out of their existing membership.

Well you could almost say they are thinking in the past. they say "That's how I got into it when I was young, why doesn't it work now?" They do need to move with the times.

  with both of yall.
I've mentioned this website before:
www.floridayoungnaturists.com
I see that they are now having Naked Sushi Parties. I guess they get points for creativity, right?

They really need to do a better job of outreach to younger people. I think doing so would also change the public's perception of nudist resorts.

Joey

[NickUMA10]

naked sushi is something---i agree they get points for creativity. i'd be interested to see what attendance for their events is like...

[gbanude]

i guess i was wondering why?  why no young adults?  anybody have any thoughts?

i think it's been discussed other places here, but my thoughts as to why:

An organized nudist culture which is built around middle to upper middle class middle aged couples. When this is your key membership and customer base, you are going to target them in your marketing over youth--because they are more likely to purchase the pricey memberships. Moreover, i think some resort owners who would otherwise be inclined to try to target younger persons sometimes find themselves b/w a rock and a hard place b/c they don't want to risk alienating their key demographic base by making changes or marketing to demographics that would offend the people already paying the pricey memberships.

From a short-term profit perspective, it makes sense. the problem is when you hit a generational crisis and the middle aged people get old and die out, you haven't introduced new people to take their place. this seems to be what is going on with clubs in the US now. AANR could demand that clubs have some sort of youth program as a condition of their incorporation into the AANR supported resorts, but at this point they seem reluctant to push the issue even as they try to say to younger people 'dive in.' I think that might also have to do with the short-term sustainablity issue (why piss of club owners and sections of your membership base when you're already hurting?).

 So short end to long answer: Too much short-term thinking and toadying to one demographic in the organized nudist world.

You would love this book called, "Generations" by Strauss & Howe

[gbanude]

naked sushi is something---i agree they get points for creativity. i'd be interested to see what attendance for their events is like...

They have pics posted from the naked sushi party. Scroll down at:
http://floridayoungnaturists.com

[Luke M]

Does anybody want to plan a trip to Cypress Cove? Sometime next year?