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Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« on: January 14, 2013, 04:41:23 pm »
What a really well written article.  (in my opinion)






The Issues of Educating Teens about Sexting, Nudity & Naturism


As I was listening to an online broadcast from a European radio station today, I heard a report about a new picture-sharing app called Snapchat. This app allows users to send messages (including pictures) which self-delete within a time period specified by the sender – usually a few seconds.
Snapchat was initially considered to be something of a solution to the issue of “sexting,” where young people take nude photos of themselves to send to someone, only to have the photos inadvertently forwarded to others. Since the messages on Snapchat can’t be saved or forwarded, the logic goes, discretion is preserved.
Unfortunately, Snapchat really offers no such solution. The Achilles Heel of the service is that nothing prevents the recipient from photographing their communication device’s screen with another camera in another device before the message self-deletes.
My intention here, however, is not to write a review of Snapchat. But the way that some young people are using their camera-enabled phones and other devices in conjunction with services like Snapchat illustrates a particularly difficult challenge for the naturist movement – how to educate teenagers about naturism.[/font]
When discussing nudism and naturism, we don’t talk about (or to) teenagers very much. We talk a lot about how many naturists are of an older generation, and there is an urgent need to get younger people involved. We talk about very young children, and are generally in agreement that naturism is not harmful to them in any way. But we don’t talk about teenagers – specifically those who are 13 to 17 years of age.[/font]
A documentary like My Daughter the Teenage Nudist is about as close as we’ve gotten. While the film is good and generally portrays naturism in a positive light for young people, it is important to note that the people in the film – not the least of which is the teenage daughter mentioned in the title – are 18 years or older, which makes them legally adults almost everywhere in the world.

“Legally” is the key word here, because I believe it’s the key to understanding why we don’t specifically address naturism for teenagers. Since nudity is so widely equated with sex, we know we can start getting into a problem area once we begin to mix the two below the age of 18. But in today’s society people jump to the conclusion that that if an individual is nude anywhere near a person below a certain age who is not their child, then that individual is guilty of engaging in sexual acts with a minor until proven innocent.

So does this mean that we shouldn’t talk about teenagers and naturism? Or that we shouldn’t talk TO them about it? I hope not. We know what the alternative is. The misunderstanding and outright persecution of nudity, often tied in with slut-shaming, among teenagers has led to bullying and suicide. There was the recent case of Amanda Todd who was exploited, blackmailed and shunned by her peers for showing her breasts on a webcam. We need to figure out a way to address this age group regarding the healthy expression of naturism.

To begin this discussion, I think it is important to understand two things (which most naturists are likely to agree with). The first is that young people are capable of understanding that nudity can be non-sexual. The second is that we should take issue with the term “sexting” – at least in part. Taking a nude photo of oneself and sending it to someone else does not have to be sexual in nature.

I recall very clearly that I understood the difference between sexual and nonsexual nudity by the time I was in my early teens, and that was before the internet. Many other naturists have said the same. I also know that if I’d had access to a modern-day smartphone or digital camera, I probably would have taken photos of myself nude. Would I have sent them to anyone? The 30-something me says no, but remembering the 14-year-old me…well, who knows?

And now we have this great digital research and communication tool called the internet, which spans the world and seems to contain quite literally everything anyone would want to know about any possible subject. If only the internet had existed when I was 13 – my mind reels at the possibility of having been able to figure out what naturism is and connect with other naturists much earlier than I did.


The problem today, however, is that the phrase “nude teenager” is internet-speak for “child pornography.” Typing the phrases “nudism questions for teenagers” or “naturism for teenagers” – or any other phrase containing variants of the words “nude” and “teenager” – into Google will return plenty of search results, but nothing close to what we would consider good information about naturism.


Access to electronic communication devices with built-in cameras and photo services such as Snapchat, therefore, provide teenagers with what for many of them is likely their only outlet to engage in nude behavior.


Assuming they did not grow up in a nudist family (which applies to most teenagers), any given teenager probably lacks the ability to go where most naturists congregate – private resorts and legal nude beaches. For one thing, most private naturist resorts will not admit unaccompanied minors for various reasons. Also, most teenagers under the age of 16 can’t drive. And those teenagers who can drive may not have a great deal of time to get to and spend time at a nude beach – that is, if there is even one located nearby.


If they can somehow get to a publicly-accessible nude area, they may not (and probably should not) go alone. This brings up the idea of trying to talk about naturism with friends in order to find a partner to go with. Most teens probably find this idea frightening as well, and given the stigma of being a naturist, they likely don’t know of a relative or friend who could accompany them either.


Combine this with myriad state-by-state laws regarding public nudity, and it’s no surprise that teenagers stick to something simple like photographing themselves with their phones.


So what are we naturists to do? It’s a shame that we are not addressing this age group. They are going through a critical period in their physical and emotional development, in which they are forming a lot of opinions about their bodies – many of which will last for decades to come. We know that some of these teenagers will eventually become practicing nudists and naturists. They are the future of the movement, but right now they are being told that nudity is bad. And the spreading of nude photos via “sexting” is not helping the issue.
It seems to me that there is a huge information vacuum that needs to be filled. If there are good naturism resources specifically for teenagers out there somewhere, I haven’t been able to find them. One action item I would propose is assembling a free downloadable guide to naturism specifically for teens, giving some outlines as to what they can and can’t do (or shouldn’t do). It could also provide links to good blogs and web sites that positively portray naturism, which would help teens avoid the dense internet forest consisting of porn sites that masquerade as naturism / nudism sites.


I don’t really have any answers beyond that. The main purpose of this blog posting is to get the discussion started. 


What do you think?  What, if anything, can we do to educate teenagers about naturism?


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From: http://nudistnaturistamerica.org/teenage-naturist-education
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 07:18:34 pm »
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It is well written. Do you know who the author is?

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 10:57:15 pm »
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It is well written. Do you know who the author is?


Hi Brady. Yes, it was Erik Jakobsen, He is a guest blogger and writes on topics dealing with naturism and social things. 
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 01:44:10 am »
I'm joining the chorus in saying a well written and a very positive message.

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 10:59:42 am »
I have to agree that it is well written and well intentioned.

I note the irony of the line
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If there are good naturism resources specifically for teenagers out there somewhere, I haven’t been able to find them.
appearing here on IYNO, probably one of the best, if not the best place on the net for teens to learn about naturism.

I'm guessing that the author either doesn't know about IYNO or doesn't approve of us.  Perhaps he feels we're not properly specific to teenagers, which we are not.  That is a good thing because a naturist site absolutely specific to teenagers is either a peer to peer discussion in which nobody has any real answers,  or a boring lecture from some older guy telling the kids what they should do, something they get enough of everywhere else.
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 01:01:40 pm »
I have to agree that it is well written and well intentioned.

I note the irony of the line
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If there are good naturism resources specifically for teenagers out there somewhere, I haven’t been able to find them.
appearing here on IYNO, probably one of the best, if not the best place on the net for teens to learn about naturism.

I'm guessing that the author either doesn't know about IYNO or doesn't approve of us.  Perhaps he feels we're not properly specific to teenagers, which we are not.  That is a good thing because a naturist site absolutely specific to teenagers is either a peer to peer discussion in which nobody has any real answers,  or a boring lecture from some older guy telling the kids what they should do, something they get enough of everywhere else.


 :4321  for that. 


We have a teens section and some of the staff members there try to keep it informative. Some, not so much...


But I agree with your last sentence totally, in every way. 
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 08:42:28 pm »
Thanks Danee. Sometimes people make up statistics and ' educated articles'. Personally, I think its important to note who is saying what.

As far as the discussion goe. I believe it is imperative for younger nudists to share their experiences and knowledge with their uneducated peers.

Simple, nudism is fun. Nudism is sensious. There is NOTHING like the sun, water and air on parts of your body that people say need to be covered.

Young people NEED to experiment (I do have some caviats on that though) carefully. Since WE all know that there is nothing wrong with being nude, we need to express that as much as possible. This generation needs to be the one who breaks the political correctness that nudists need to be investigated because they allow their children to go nude; that they take them to nude beaches and resorts; that they allow their children to be seen (God forbid) by others.

This generation needs to be the one who makes nudism normal again and take the sexual stereotypes out of it

This is just Brady ranting again. My rants and five dollars gets you close to coffee at Starbucks.

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 02:19:02 am »
Thanks Danee. Sometimes people make up statistics and ' educated articles'. Personally, I think its important to note who is saying what.

As far as the discussion goe. I believe it is imperative for younger nudists to share their experiences and knowledge with their uneducated peers.

Simple, nudism is fun. Nudism is sensious. There is NOTHING like the sun, water and air on parts of your body that people say need to be covered.

Young people NEED to experiment (I do have some caviats on that though) carefully. Since WE all know that there is nothing wrong with being nude, we need to express that as much as possible. This generation needs to be the one who breaks the political correctness that nudists need to be investigated because they allow their children to go nude; that they take them to nude beaches and resorts; that they allow their children to be seen (God forbid) by others.

This generation needs to be the one who makes nudism normal again and take the sexual stereotypes out of it

This is just Brady ranting again. My rants and five dollars gets you close to coffee at Starbucks.


No, this is not Brady ranting. It is Brady being a wonderful and thoughtful contributor and I am not saying that simply because I agree with you.


Thank-you, Brady!
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 03:54:54 pm »
Nice article, really enjoyed reading it.

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 10:58:36 pm »
I liked that article as well.  Do Erik and Jordan know about this forum?  :-)
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 12:01:45 am »
I was thinking of linking to this forum in the comments as a response, but was not sure if that was acceptable. I also am not sure of their audience.

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 01:54:05 am »
I was thinking of linking to this forum in the comments as a response, but was not sure if that was acceptable. I also am not sure of their audience.


You go right ahead.  We have pretty fair security in place here.
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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 01:45:00 pm »
What a wonderful article!
Any idea how we can get more teenagers into naturism or do we just have to wait till public nudity is legal?

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2013, 11:03:22 am »
I was thinking of linking to this forum in the comments as a response, but was not sure if that was acceptable. I also am not sure of their audience.


You go right ahead.  We have pretty fair security in place here.

I went back and commented a quick link to us here. I mentioned this was a great forum and source for younger people interested in nudism. I also noted there are great moderators and good security.
However, they quickly removed my comment. Guess we are not just a good source of information, we are competition.

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Re: Teenage Naturist: How Do We Educate Teenagers About Naturism?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 03:24:44 pm »
To be honest I'm not shocked.  Seems like every 6 months or so, YNA gets into a sparring match online with Vita Nuda, another young naturist organization from the United States.  Seems that for all their wanting to be open and such, they really are territorial.