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Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« on: July 09, 2014, 04:12:17 pm »
750 million Facebook users worldwide still don’t know which photographs are deemed appropriate.



Facebook, the world’s most popular social network, continues to confuse its users as to its policy on what exactly constitutes illicit photographs. While some seemingly innocuous pictures are being removed, others that most people agree cross over the line into pornography remain.

The website has responded to public complaints about being too restrictive when it comes to certain types of images. Just last month Facebook changed its policy to allow pictures of women breastfeeding. It had, until them, removed such pictures.

But Facebook recently punished a professional photographer for posting a picture of two year-old girls at the beach, in which one playfully pulls down the other’s bathing shorts from behind. While some people may have viewed this as “cute” or “playful,” Facebook felt that since part of the second girl’s bottom was exposed that it bordered on child pornography.

Facebook took down the picture and banned the photographer, Jilly White, from making any postings for a 24 hour period. Ms. White responded by telling Fox News, “We didn’t stage the photo. When we looked at it later, her tan line reminded us so much of the famous Coppertone ad.”

“I was completely shocked and outraged,” White stated. “Nowhere did I see anything pornographic about this photo. There is nothing sexual about it. It’s sweet.”

The 1950s Coppertone sunscreen ad was a drawing depicting a young girl whose bathing suit is being pulled down by a dog. The image reveals part of the girl’s behind and was meant to show her tan line.

White’s photo was first posted on Coppertone’s Facebook page.




While Facebook rushed to delete that image, it is apparently not dealing with some genuinely pornographic material that gets posted on it.
Davin Rosenblatt of Warwick, N.Y., hosts a radio show called Davin’s Den, in which he has attacked Facebook for its inconsistent policy.
He told The New York Post, “The public has a right to know that their children are not safe on Facebook — because Facebook ignores their own rules.” He pointed out that the social networking website is filled with pornographic imagery, including pedophilia and bestiality.


“Even if a parent gives an honest effort to limit what their child is exposed to, Facebook allows them to see as much graphic content as they would on a porn site,” Rosenblatt added. He also cited a number of Facebook pages that provide direct links to websites filled with pornographic imagery.

Facebook states that, “Our policy prohibits photos of actual nude people, not paintings or sculptures. We recognize that this policy might in some cases result in the removal of artistic works; however, it is designed to ensure Facebook remains a safe, secure and trusted environment for all users.”

“Facebook has a strict policy against the sharing of pornographic content and any explicitly sexual content where a minor is involved. We also impose limitations on the display of nudity. We aspire to respect people’s right to share content of personal importance, whether those are photos of a sculpture like Michelangelo’s David or family photos of a child breastfeeding.”

Many critics are saying that the above is self-contradictory and that Facebook fails to be consistent in what it removes.

Facebook defends its record, pointing out that 350 million images are posted on it each day. It says its complaint response times have been shortened from 72 to 48 hours, stating, “When policies are violated, we remove that content.”


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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 07:57:46 pm »

Facebook needs to get their mind out of the gutter. Now everything is deemed sexual? We have a saying here: "How you live is how you judge", so I guess many people in FB have dirty, disturbing minds, especially over this matter. They need an intense course of FKK, pronto and learn the difference of simple, free, relaxed, harmless nudity and pornography!  :324
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2014, 08:08:19 pm »
Facebook needs to get their mind out of the gutter. Now everything is deemed sexual? We have a saying here: "How you live is how you judge", so I guess many people in FB have dirty, disturbing minds, especially over this matter. They need an intense course of FKK, pronto and learn the difference of simple, free, relaxed, harmless nudity and pornography!  :324

You are assuming that the censorship is done by people from Facebook. This isn't the case, Facebook outsources moderation to lowly paid foreign workers with very different culture than ours. They can hardly given them long classes of "cultural sensitivity" without undermining the reason they hire them in the first place (paying them peanuts).

And there's the issue that cultural sensitivity is relative, Facebook is global.

I think that the current technique the use is inherently flawed, unscalable, and impossible to fix. I advocate removing the moderators and replacing them by algorithm that discover what is and isn't acceptable in your own friends and acquaintances network so that each physical and virtual part of the globe may have its own sensitivity.
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 08:17:59 pm »
I would assume that a sheet of guidelines could improve consistency a lot without being prohibitively expensive. The question is whether the people who make the guidelines are made aware of such controversies.
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2014, 08:25:35 pm »
I would assume that a sheet of guidelines could improve consistency a lot without being prohibitively expensive. The question is whether the people who make the guidelines are made aware of such controversies.

Do you make different sheets for rural Texas and San Francisco?
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2014, 09:25:30 pm »
I would assume that a sheet of guidelines could improve consistency a lot without being prohibitively expensive. The question is whether the people who make the guidelines are made aware of such controversies.

Do you make different sheets for rural Texas and San Francisco?
Well, the idea would be that if they censor anything, they would first apply a consistent corporate policy. Profiling different regions for different sensitivities could come later. Then again, profiling is what Facebook does, so yeah. If you were to recognize and evalulate cultural sensitivities for various social groups and locations, you could probably integrate it into whatever interface they use for moderation, though. No need for the moderators themselves to be in the know.
Also, why the need for censorship at all? Other than illegal content, social circles should be able to police themselves. If people offend you, unfriend them. Then again, the concept of Facebook as it is widely practiced, and probably their business model as well, tends to involve everyone you have ever been in contact with being on your friends list, so there is that.
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 01:09:23 am »
Also, why the need for censorship at all? Other than illegal content, social circles should be able to police themselves. If people offend you, unfriend them. Then again, the concept of Facebook as it is widely practiced, and probably their business model as well, tends to involve everyone you have ever been in contact with being on your friends list, so there is that.

I would personally limit moderation to things that are illegal in the host country. For instance, if we don't host in Germany, then you have to unfriend on your own people posting swastikas all the time (aka "look, Obama is bad, I photoshop him as hitler and the Queen is bad so I photoshopped her as Hitler, and so on and so forth").
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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 08:55:54 pm »
    I'm actually fine (well, not fine, but tolerant) with Facebook not allowing nudity on their site. What I'm not ok with is the confusion with the rule on their site, their ability to remove pictures as they please without some sort of explanation. I'm not ok with beheadings being completely fine, while nudity being unacceptable.

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Re: Facebook’s Nudity Policy Still Unclear, Enraging Many
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 03:21:59 pm »
FB wants to be THE communication platform for the world. To be that, it simply CAN NOT censor ANYTHING. To be the unified platform for FREE COMMUNICATION the platform can not choose what gets sent. That said, a user adjustable filter is necessary. "Do you want to see posts like this in the future?"

Tracking users is what FB does best. Use that power to for good.