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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2020, 09:28:19 am »
@rdfcguy @Danee  Great reads and videos on the rapid change in cultural attitudes between one or two generations of nudes swimming in public.
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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2020, 02:46:34 am »
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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2020, 03:35:26 am »
It was a hugely problematic thing for many boys. They weren't only required to do it in spite of not wanting to, they weren't allowed to wear swimming clothes even if they wanted to, and they had to stand on line for a visual inspection before every swimming lesson. There are tons of witnesses on needing therapy because of being forced to do it. It wasn't at all voluntary, it was degrading, and aimed at boys to harden them. Even in that newspaper-article with the title "Dear Abby" you can read her saying:

"Boys do not require the same degree of modesty as girls"

That is so incredibly demeaning toward males and a transgression on them imo. The forced naked swimming only stopped bco protest movements and guys who refused to be forced to stand on line for inspection, being jeered at and belittled by both staff and others around them, and they finally started throwing broken glass into the basins to not have to.

Nudity can be natural and wonderful, but it should always be voluntary, and this shouldn't be romanticised, because most often it was a traumatic event for vulnerable boys who were pushed into something they didn't want to do.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2020, 02:05:59 pm »
It was a hugely problematic thing for many boys. They weren't only required to do it in spite of not wanting to, they weren't allowed to wear swimming clothes even if they wanted to, and they had to stand on line for a visual inspection before every swimming lesson. There are tons of witnesses on needing therapy because of being forced to do it. It wasn't at all voluntary, it was degrading, and aimed at boys to harden them. Even in that newspaper-article with the title "Dear Abby" you can read her saying:

"Boys do not require the same degree of modesty as girls"

That is so incredibly demeaning toward males and a transgression on them imo. The forced naked swimming only stopped bco protest movements and guys who refused to be forced to stand on line for inspection, being jeered at and belittled by both staff and others around them, and they finally started throwing broken glass into the basins to not have to.

Nudity can be natural and wonderful, but it should always be voluntary, and this shouldn't be romanticised, because most often it was a traumatic event for vulnerable boys who were pushed into something they didn't want to do.

Totally agree with you, horrible. Especially the inspection part, iidk what they did/looked at during their inspectiostbutni can only imagineiit bbeing degrading.kinda like the swedes did to the Sami.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2021, 08:08:52 am »
At least some swimming pools offer nude sessions, but unfortunately there aren't many of them.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2021, 06:04:29 pm »
How long ago was these videos? I can't imagine that my old school would have done that
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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2021, 12:43:06 pm »
Jesus Christ, this sounds terrifying.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2021, 04:48:42 pm »
I heard that girls were even allowed to spectate the boys' swim classes during finals when parents of the boys were invited to watch them do their class. I'm not sure if this is true though.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2021, 05:06:59 pm »
I heard that girls were even allowed to spectate the boys' swim classes during finals when parents of the boys were invited to watch them do their class. I'm not sure if this is true though.

I would not be surprised. Just read through this stuff. Unbelievable.
I wonder if any schools let 5he girls do this as well... there's usually a false negativity to females in any of these kind of regards
The boys often had female instructors as well. 
This ran (for real) in September, 1970, when I was 17, before my senior year in high school.  I could well have been that 17-year-old brother; I would have been very relaxed about being nude with the adults and the girls.  Of course, by then I had been thoroughly sexualized.

I can't imagine putting myself in those boys' shoes. Having to strip naked in front of your peers and teachers of opposite sex, and you can't do anything about it. I can imagine how many suicides or mental traumas can be attributed to that.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2021, 05:27:19 pm »
I heard that girls were even allowed to spectate the boys' swim classes during finals when parents of the boys were invited to watch them do their class. I'm not sure if this is true though.

I would not be surprised. Just read through this stuff. Unbelievable.
I wonder if any schools let 5he girls do this as well... there's usually a false negativity to females in any of these kind of regards
The boys often had female instructors as well. 
This ran (for real) in September, 1970, when I was 17, before my senior year in high school.  I could well have been that 17-year-old brother; I would have been very relaxed about being nude with the adults and the girls.  Of course, by then I had been thoroughly sexualized.

I can't imagine putting myself in those boys' shoes. Having to strip naked in front of your peers and teachers of opposite sex, and you can't do anything about it. I can imagine how many suicides or mental traumas can be attributed to that.

The theory is that it was done to make the boys less modest for drafted military service since they wouldn't have private showers there. Doesn't make it any less horrible though.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2021, 05:37:46 pm »
The theory is that it was done to make the boys less modest for drafted military service since they wouldn't have private showers there. Doesn't make it any less horrible though.
I don't think showering in the military is different from simply showering after the pool. Also doesn't explain why they would allow girls to hang out with boys or female teachers, it's not like there would be girls watching you in the army. It just sounds like some crook though it would be a good idea and it somehow got traction.

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2021, 07:08:31 pm »
Just watched all the videos.. this is really excellent, well researched.  I talked to my garnd dad about this and he confirms that he swam nude in hich school here in Indiana

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Re: Nude Swimming In Public Schools
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2021, 08:20:26 am »
Really interesting, I never knew about this. But I agree with the sentiment of others that this is wrong. Nudity should be celebrated, not forced.