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Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« on: August 02, 2020, 05:43:22 am »
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 03:44:30 pm »
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 08:01:42 pm »
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2020, 11:55:28 am »
With the pandemic there is less of an incentive to wear textile since most places are closed. Kinda amazing to see folks try naturism!

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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2020, 02:10:29 pm »
With the pandemic there is less of an incentive to wear textile since most places are closed. Kinda amazing to see folks try naturism!

It really is amazing. It is nice to know that some people are taking advantage of this pandemic to try something new and gain the benefits of nudism.
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 09:17:31 pm »
With the pandemic there is less of an incentive to wear textile since most places are closed. Kinda amazing to see folks try naturism!

It really is amazing. It is nice to know that some people are taking advantage of this pandemic to try something new and gain the benefits of nudism.

And the good thing is that it's probably out of natural laziness, and the point of view that "if I'm not expecting to see anyone, why should I dress?" Or perhaps it's just out of comfort in the AU/NZ heat.

Either way, great to see people embracing it (intentionally or not).

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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2020, 11:21:37 pm »
With the pandemic there is less of an incentive to wear textile since most places are closed. Kinda amazing to see folks try naturism!

It really is amazing. It is nice to know that some people are taking advantage of this pandemic to try something new and gain the benefits of nudism.

And the good thing is that it's probably out of natural laziness, and the point of view that "if I'm not expecting to see anyone, why should I dress?" Or perhaps it's just out of comfort in the AU/NZ heat.

Either way, great to see people embracing it (intentionally or not).


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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2020, 04:52:35 pm »
This summer I've been doing deliveries to peoples homes and I kinda feel like I'm coming to their home so they have a right to be the way they want to be. If they open the door nude that's fine because I came to them.

That being said, No one has opened the door completely nude (except for some kids) they have always had least had a towel on.

Someone being nude would be the least of my concern after all the weird shit I've seen in peoples homes.

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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2020, 12:13:51 am »
This summer I've been doing deliveries to peoples homes and I kinda feel like I'm coming to their home so they have a right to be the way they want to be. If they open the door nude that's fine because I came to them.

That being said, No one has opened the door completely nude (except for some kids) they have always had least had a towel on.

Someone being nude would be the least of my concern after all the weird shit I've seen in peoples homes.

Not everyone has the same boundaries that you (and most people here) would have though. Not everyone wants a random naked person just sprung on them, and they might have VERY VALID reasons for that, and that shouldn't be lost on anyone here. I mean, don't get it twisted, I get where you're comin' from, but you gotta remember that not everyone is gonna see it like you do.
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2020, 09:09:17 am »
That's a decent point but when comparing someone's feelings to muh private property rights I'll go for the property rights. So imo the police should suck it up and deal with nude people at their own homes if they want to go round checking on people like some quarantine big brother stazi.

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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2020, 02:21:06 pm »
This summer I've been doing deliveries to peoples homes and I kinda feel like I'm coming to their home so they have a right to be the way they want to be. If they open the door nude that's fine because I came to them.

That being said, No one has opened the door completely nude (except for some kids) they have always had least had a towel on.

Someone being nude would be the least of my concern after all the weird shit I've seen in peoples homes.

Not everyone has the same boundaries that you (and most people here) would have though. Not everyone wants a random naked person just sprung on them, and they might have VERY VALID reasons for that, and that shouldn't be lost on anyone here. I mean, don't get it twisted, I get where you're comin' from, but you gotta remember that not everyone is gonna see it like you do.

The question what reasons are valid is a difficult question in and of itself. You cannot expect people to conform to the particular needs of every possible visitor. I assume a good guideline will be how common you can expect a negative reaction to be versus how much it would inconvenience the resident. As an extreme example, if someone is uneasy around people of a particular ethnicity, tough luck, because a resident who is, say, Indian, could not change that aspect of himself if he tried. But what about clothes of a particular color? People might react negatively to that, for instance if a particular color is associated with a criminal gang or something along those lines. On the other hand: If someone opens the door wearing something like a MAGA hat, it is fairly likely they are doing that to get a reaction out of their visitor - it is not common to just be wearing a hat at home.
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2020, 02:29:34 pm »
The question what reasons are valid is a difficult question in and of itself. You cannot expect people to conform to the particular needs of every possible visitor. I assume a good guideline will be how common you can expect a negative reaction to be versus how much it would inconvenience the resident. As an extreme example, if someone is uneasy around people of a particular ethnicity, tough luck, because a resident who is, say, Indian, could not change that aspect of himself if he tried. But what about clothes of a particular color? People might react negatively to that, for instance if a particular color is associated with a criminal gang or something along those lines. On the other hand: If someone opens the door wearing something like a MAGA hat, it is fairly likely they are doing that to get a reaction out of their visitor - it is not common to just be wearing a hat at home.

Yup. Just like on the other hand, if a person is naked at home, he is not doing it do provoke a reaction but really that is just the way he dresses at home. He is not doing it to make anyone uncomfortable so really this should not be a problem. If a person can answer the door in his boxers, why can't he do it naked? Really, as long as the person answering the door is fine with that, it shouldn't be a problem. 
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2020, 05:22:12 pm »
This summer I've been doing deliveries to peoples homes and I kinda feel like I'm coming to their home so they have a right to be the way they want to be. If they open the door nude that's fine because I came to them.

That being said, No one has opened the door completely nude (except for some kids) they have always had least had a towel on.

Someone being nude would be the least of my concern after all the weird shit I've seen in peoples homes.

Not everyone has the same boundaries that you (and most people here) would have though. Not everyone wants a random naked person just sprung on them, and they might have VERY VALID reasons for that, and that shouldn't be lost on anyone here. I mean, don't get it twisted, I get where you're comin' from, but you gotta remember that not everyone is gonna see it like you do.

The question what reasons are valid is a difficult question in and of itself. You cannot expect people to conform to the particular needs of every possible visitor. I assume a good guideline will be how common you can expect a negative reaction to be versus how much it would inconvenience the resident. As an extreme example, if someone is uneasy around people of a particular ethnicity, tough luck, because a resident who is, say, Indian, could not change that aspect of himself if he tried. But what about clothes of a particular color? People might react negatively to that, for instance if a particular color is associated with a criminal gang or something along those lines. On the other hand: If someone opens the door wearing something like a MAGA hat, it is fairly likely they are doing that to get a reaction out of their visitor - it is not common to just be wearing a hat at home.


That's nowhere near the same and literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. What the actual fuck? Ask your homegirls about seeing unwanted dicks and let me know if respecting common boundaries is still a "silly idea".
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2020, 06:04:54 pm »
I am of the opinion that everyone deserves to be offended, that anything from cut-up corpses to hardcore pornography to kittens in a blender should be acceptable on public billboards across town. Whether or not it is a nice thing to do is a different question of course, but if you see other people, do not expect them to conform to your standards.

In this case, sure, the cops, and pizza delivery people, and package services and so on are just doing their job, but they are still entering someone else's personal space doing it, and I would argue that something becomes acceptable in your personal space long before it becomes acceptable on a public street.

Basically, there are two factors at play here. One, which I am championing, is that the resident should always have more authority over the nature of an interaction in a home than the visitor. The other, which you correctly noted, is that meeting people while clothed is more in line with the norms of society than while naked. Which one of these wins... I think that is a lot less clear-cut than the edge cases I mentioned. If the visitor's objection is about something that the resident cannot change about themselves, it is obvious. If the resident is going out of their way to offend the visitor, it is also somewhat clear-cut. However, between the two, there is a lot of grey area, where conforming to your visitor's wishes is of course always the more courteous thing to do, but not giving a fuck about your visitor's feelings is, well, maybe not the right thing to do, but also not exactly wrong, more like morally neutral.

Just do not expect the people you gave an eyeful to like you and want to do business with you afterwards. And watch your local laws.
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Re: Quarantiners Urged to Dress Before Answering Door
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2020, 08:53:29 pm »
This summer I've been doing deliveries to peoples homes and I kinda feel like I'm coming to their home so they have a right to be the way they want to be. If they open the door nude that's fine because I came to them.

That being said, No one has opened the door completely nude (except for some kids) they have always had least had a towel on.

Someone being nude would be the least of my concern after all the weird shit I've seen in peoples homes.

Not everyone has the same boundaries that you (and most people here) would have though. Not everyone wants a random naked person just sprung on them, and they might have VERY VALID reasons for that, and that shouldn't be lost on anyone here. I mean, don't get it twisted, I get where you're comin' from, but you gotta remember that not everyone is gonna see it like you do.

The question what reasons are valid is a difficult question in and of itself. You cannot expect people to conform to the particular needs of every possible visitor. I assume a good guideline will be how common you can expect a negative reaction to be versus how much it would inconvenience the resident. As an extreme example, if someone is uneasy around people of a particular ethnicity, tough luck, because a resident who is, say, Indian, could not change that aspect of himself if he tried. But what about clothes of a particular color? People might react negatively to that, for instance if a particular color is associated with a criminal gang or something along those lines. On the other hand: If someone opens the door wearing something like a MAGA hat, it is fairly likely they are doing that to get a reaction out of their visitor - it is not common to just be wearing a hat at home.


That's nowhere near the same and literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen you write. What the actual fuck? Ask your homegirls about seeing unwanted dicks and let me know if respecting common boundaries is still a "silly idea".

Does everyone has the right to be comfortable in their own home: YES!

Do people who deliver mail, etc., want to have naked folk answer the door: PROBABLY NOT!

The way I see it is that, there's an extent to which your beliefs and way of living at home can become offensive to others. In this case, when it comes to nudity, because it can so often be blown out of context, it makes no sense to answer the door to people who you don't know, without clothes on.

If it was me, I'd, by default, answer the door with *something* on me, unless I knew the person who had knocked on the door, was ok with answering nude, AND if I was certain it was them.

The front door IS the gateway to the public street when someone has knocked on it, so, therefore it makes sense to me to act in accordance to public law, despite being on my property.

It is a grey area, but if I was unsure, I'd act like I would amongst the general public, to save offense, embarrassment, or confrontation.