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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2021, 05:14:25 pm »
Oh dear… 🤦‍♂️ I just don’t know what to say. I guess we shouldn’t be surprised at these comments but every time something like this comes up it always seems to create some feeling of shock at the minds of some people

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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2021, 05:48:31 pm »
To be fair I know this forum tends to like to jump on the "nudity is good" train but we truly can't know the real intentions of the photographer. There's still definite repercussions for this kind of thing. I mean chances are it's fine but I'm not gonna immediately jump on the "negative" comments because they have some merit because like I said there's always details left out especially in journalism. My point being I don't think 90% of these are as one sided as "prudes bad nudity good".
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2021, 07:07:02 pm »
Pornography is in the mind of the viewer and should have no bearing on the subject.  Unless were talking explicit sex acts.  Some people will find anything pornographic and there is no end to what they might demand be restricted based on their own nonsense.  They can prove harm or they can stfu as far as I'm concerned.






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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2021, 12:27:57 am »
To be fair I know this forum tends to like to jump on the "nudity is good" train but we truly can't know the real intentions of the photographer. There's still definite repercussions for this kind of thing. I mean chances are it's fine but I'm not gonna immediately jump on the "negative" comments because they have some merit because like I said there's always details left out especially in journalism. My point being I don't think 90% of these are as one sided as "prudes bad nudity good".

I get your point, but in this case the photographer is her dad while they're on a trip. The photos look like normal things kids do. The worst photo is probably just the one where she's nude in the middle of the road on all fours cause what's the point.
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2021, 12:37:30 am »
To be fair I know this forum tends to like to jump on the "nudity is good" train but we truly can't know the real intentions of the photographer. There's still definite repercussions for this kind of thing. I mean chances are it's fine but I'm not gonna immediately jump on the "negative" comments because they have some merit because like I said there's always details left out especially in journalism. My point being I don't think 90% of these are as one sided as "prudes bad nudity good".

I get your point, but in this case the photographer is her dad while they're on a trip. The photos look like normal things kids do. The worst photo is probably just the one where she's nude in the middle of the road on all fours cause what's the point.

Yeah I thought about that but couldn’t tell if it was just the low resolution of the image posted or if it was actually faked and the girl was pasted into a picture of a road. But like you say, what’s the point. Some of his pictures do seem like they were deliberately set up to create shock among the public but most seem like normal kid things. That’s just my opinion from glancing though. 🤷‍♂️

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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2021, 05:48:35 am »
Pornography is in the mind of the viewer and should have no bearing on the subject.  Unless were talking explicit sex acts.  Some people will find anything pornographic and there is no end to what they might demand be restricted based on their own nonsense.  They can prove harm or they can stfu as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2021, 09:34:07 am »
To be fair I know this forum tends to like to jump on the "nudity is good" train but we truly can't know the real intentions of the photographer. There's still definite repercussions for this kind of thing. I mean chances are it's fine but I'm not gonna immediately jump on the "negative" comments because they have some merit because like I said there's always details left out especially in journalism. My point being I don't think 90% of these are as one sided as "prudes bad nudity good".

As a father myself, I'd be very cautious to publish my child's photos.
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2021, 10:47:54 am »
i looked at the article and the pictures, have people gone insane????
these are porngrafic pictures???
if this is pornographic then we need to abolish all family albums that are out there on the web.
maybe we also need new rules about taking pictures of kids, "no pants, no shirt, no shoes = no picture"
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2021, 02:35:14 am »
These photos really don't constitute porn. There's not anything wrong with his photos. just shows the innocence of childhood. if anything, people who see this as porn just have something wrong with them.

that being said, if I was in his place I would be more wary of publishing such photos online. obviously there's nothing perverse about it, but you never know how she would feel about the photos when she grows up. it's like equivalent of your parents posting your bath photos as a kid online. needless to say, most people would be pretty embarrassed by it later on.
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2021, 12:21:25 pm »
Those are really artistic although I can kinda see why two of them could be seen as pornographic. The internet just loves having things to be outraged about and these news websites love to feed the fire.
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2021, 12:32:13 pm »
Those are really artistic although I can kinda see why two of them could be seen as pornographic. The internet just loves having things to be outraged about and these news websites love to feed the fire.
Yeah, I think I know the two you mean

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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2021, 01:36:51 pm »
These photos really don't constitute porn. There's not anything wrong with his photos. just shows the innocence of childhood. if anything, people who see this as porn just have something wrong with them.

that being said, if I was in his place I would be more wary of publishing such photos online. obviously there's nothing perverse about it, but you never know how she would feel about the photos when she grows up. it's like equivalent of your parents posting your bath photos as a kid online. needless to say, most people would be pretty embarrassed by it later on.
This. It is not porn, but whether or not it is pornographic, it is still putting a child on show in a context that a) might attract the wrong crowd and b) might compromise the child in the future. Whether nudity is normal to us or not does not matter when there are so many people in the world to whom nudity is not normal, and who might harrass the child for it in the future. Kids can be quite cruel.
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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2021, 03:18:04 pm »
Those are really artistic although I can kinda see why two of them could be seen as pornographic. The internet just loves having things to be outraged about and these news websites love to feed the fire.

Yeah you’re absolutely right and it seems there are those who deliberately look for these kinds or articles to be outraged over and news just keeps throwing it out there more and more.

These photos really don't constitute porn. There's not anything wrong with his photos. just shows the innocence of childhood. if anything, people who see this as porn just have something wrong with them.

that being said, if I was in his place I would be more wary of publishing such photos online. obviously there's nothing perverse about it, but you never know how she would feel about the photos when she grows up. it's like equivalent of your parents posting your bath photos as a kid online. needless to say, most people would be pretty embarrassed by it later on.
This. It is not porn, but whether or not it is pornographic, it is still putting a child on show in a context that a) might attract the wrong crowd and b) might compromise the child in the future. Whether nudity is normal to us or not does not matter when there are so many people in the world to whom nudity is not normal, and who might harrass the child for it in the future. Kids can be quite cruel.

Yep kids can be cruel but who can be more cruel, kids or some adults? Looking at those comments it’s a tough call

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Re: People Called These Photos Of An Artist's Daughter 'Pornographic.'
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2021, 02:44:08 am »
Those are really artistic although I can kinda see why two of them could be seen as pornographic. The internet just loves having things to be outraged about and these news websites love to feed the fire.

Yeah you’re absolutely right and it seems there are those who deliberately look for these kinds or articles to be outraged over and news just keeps throwing it out there more and more.

These photos really don't constitute porn. There's not anything wrong with his photos. just shows the innocence of childhood. if anything, people who see this as porn just have something wrong with them.

that being said, if I was in his place I would be more wary of publishing such photos online. obviously there's nothing perverse about it, but you never know how she would feel about the photos when she grows up. it's like equivalent of your parents posting your bath photos as a kid online. needless to say, most people would be pretty embarrassed by it later on.
This. It is not porn, but whether or not it is pornographic, it is still putting a child on show in a context that a) might attract the wrong crowd and b) might compromise the child in the future. Whether nudity is normal to us or not does not matter when there are so many people in the world to whom nudity is not normal, and who might harrass the child for it in the future. Kids can be quite cruel.

Yep kids can be cruel but who can be more cruel, kids or some adults? Looking at those comments it’s a tough call

I would say kids. I mean as rude as the adults are being, they are driven to do this by what they believe is their moral duty to protect the child. Even though it's because of their warped view on it. They think they are helping the kid here.

When kids bully you for that, they're not giving a shit about protecting you. They just see it as a free pass to make fun of you and put you down.
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