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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2011, 01:42:12 pm »
I loved Twilight I read it from first to last page at once with little up the nose
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2011, 04:05:39 pm »
Confession, I have read them. It was never a book that I would have picked up off the shelf and said "oh man this is something I have got to get into" But I was flattered into it by someone saying I reminded them of a character in the series. Of course, my vanity got the best of me and I was hooked. It was the underlying "love conquers all" sentiment that got me. I consider myself in a healthy supply of testosterone but am not afraid to say I have read the series because romantics love company. And every now and then people need a sappy happy ending.

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 02:36:31 am »
As a person with deep respect for what the horror genre once was, I think this author needs to leave vampires and werewolves alone. It's insulting.

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 12:10:43 pm »
As a person with deep respect for what the horror genre once was, I think this author needs to leave vampires and werewolves alone. It's insulting.

Don't you believe in freedom of speech?

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 07:32:05 pm »
As a person with deep respect for what the horror genre once was, I think this author needs to leave vampires and werewolves alone. It's insulting.

Don't you believe in freedom of speech?
Uh.. Yeah, sure, but I don't really understand where the Twilight series would have anything to do with professing one's ideals or beliefs; something most commonly associated with freedom of speech. But whatever, what I'm saying is that if she wanted to make a romance novel, she doesn't need to put vampires in it. Disregarding an entire horror formula and changing everything we know about vampires just to get your middle school romance novels to be a little more noticeable is a pretty low thing. How would Bela Legosi feel if he were around to see this mess? If I ever saw Christopher Lee sparkle and cry, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2011, 07:38:03 pm »
Uh.. Yeah, sure, but I don't really understand where the Twilight series would have anything to do with professing one's ideals or beliefs; something most commonly associated with freedom of speech.

This is not what freedom of speech is about. Freedom of speech is about protecting speech you hate.

But whatever, what I'm saying is that if she wanted to make a romance novel, she doesn't need to put vampires in it. Disregarding an entire horror formula and changing everything we know about vampires just to get your middle school romance novels to be a little more noticeable is a pretty low thing.

What's the point of making new things if they have to be exactly like the old things?

Yeah, she does mediocre literature. So freaking what? We live in a world that's utterly flooded by entertainment. Pick something else that makes you happy.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2011, 07:43:15 pm »
Yeah, she does mediocre literature. So freaking what? We live in a world that's utterly flooded by entertainment. Pick something else that makes you happy.
Calm down, friend. I'm not attacking anyone. I've just stated my opinion, that's all. Isn't that what forums of all types are all about? Getting your opinion out there, even if it's not a very popular one?

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2011, 07:56:06 pm »
Uh.. Yeah, sure, but I don't really understand where the Twilight series would have anything to do with professing one's ideals or beliefs; something most commonly associated with freedom of speech.

This is not what freedom of speech is about. Freedom of speech is about protecting speech you hate.

That does mean we have to support or enjoy it. It just means we have to avoid banning it.
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2011, 08:18:30 pm »
Uh.. Yeah, sure, but I don't really understand where the Twilight series would have anything to do with professing one's ideals or beliefs; something most commonly associated with freedom of speech.

Or freedom of artistic expression. People like the books, so what's the problem?

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2011, 08:21:12 pm »
People like the books, so what's the problem?

People like Jersey Shore too, but I still think it's a plague. In the end, it's just personal opinion. That's all.

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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2011, 10:48:51 pm »
Okay my opinion to this might not be valid as Im a girl. At first I didnt like twilight because I thought it was a bit cliche. Then after watching the first film i read the four books and I fell in love. I think it's because I'm too much of a hopeless romantic at heart and because I've seen the first film I wanted to see the 2nd and the 3rd and really cant wait too see the 4th (both parts) Although saying that I dont like how they dont put the best parts from the book into the movie.

Guess thats why its a good idea to read the books first. A few of my friends are Twi-haters but that doesnt bother me because each to their own I guess. (:
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2011, 11:35:23 pm »
I think it's because I'm too much of a hopeless romantic at heart

Abusive relationships aren't romantic.
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2011, 10:03:24 pm »
I think it's because I'm too much of a hopeless romantic at heart

Abusive relationships aren't romantic.

I wasn't saying I like the 'abusive relationship' I just like the story line or whatever. Not all of it is based on so called abuse, Yes I get that it's not very acurate because the Vampires sparkle in the sunlight and some are 'vegetarians' but I don't scrutinize movies down to fine detail.
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2011, 04:04:10 am »
I wasn't saying I like the 'abusive relationship' I just like the story line or whatever. Not all of it is based on so called abuse, Yes I get that it's not very acurate because the Vampires sparkle in the sunlight and some are 'vegetarians' but I don't scrutinize movies down to fine detail.

The story line is about an abusive relationship. Edward is an abusive douche and Bella suffers from battered wife syndrome.

Someone compiled a partial list against the signs of abuse.
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Re: Twilight: A girl's book ?? or not?
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2011, 11:48:26 am »
Jenny (my gf) is a big fan of Twighlight and other "dark romance" fiction... she has a healthy attitude about it (she recognises the way the relationships in Twilight could be seen as quite unhealthy, for example) but she still enjoys reading them (and stuff like LJ Smith who writes the Secret Circle books).

She's suggested I read Twilight but it just doesn't appeal to me.