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General Talk (primarily non-naturist) => The Sports Bar! => Topic started by: relentlessrob on August 29, 2011, 10:42:18 am
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So one of the worlds largest sporting tournament is about to start soon in New Zealand!
Who on the forum follows their Rugby team? USA and Canada have teams, so I hope it means a lot of the forum can get invoved.
For the rest of you support the All Blacks and be a winner!
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I like the rugby I could bear logically France, I wish she wins the trophy, but it's unlikely to happen. When the United States or Canada that think they are even less likely. In my opinion the final victory will return to New Zealand or South Africa or Argentina can be
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As a female rugby lover - apparently that makes me a scrummie - looking forward to the next six weeks of the festival of the boot. I would think NZ deserve to be favorites but they are under immense pressure playing at home. Australia will have to win nine a row to win (the last two wins plus the next seven) and that doesn't seem possible. South Africa have lost their depth and are playing a very experience core but a few injuries and they are in all sorts of trouble. For France it will depend on which side of their personality turns up - they are two different teams in the same 15.
England - I couldn't bear if such a negative style wins again. Wales don't appear to have the depth for the tournment.
Ireland could be the surprise as will be Samoa. Highly trained international players coming together to ambush the top nations.
Samoa v South Africa will be a cracker.
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Opening ceremony just last night.
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As a female rugby lover - apparently that makes me a scrummie - looking forward to the next six weeks of the festival of the boot. I would think NZ deserve to be favorites but they are under immense pressure playing at home. Australia will have to win nine a row to win (the last two wins plus the next seven) and that doesn't seem possible. South Africa have lost their depth and are playing a very experience core but a few injuries and they are in all sorts of trouble. For France it will depend on which side of their personality turns up - they are two different teams in the same 15.
England - I couldn't bear if such a negative style wins again. Wales don't appear to have the depth for the tournment.
Ireland could be the surprise as will be Samoa. Highly trained international players coming together to ambush the top nations.
Samoa v South Africa will be a cracker.
I've not heard the term scrummie before, but it is very appropriate. There is something very appealing about a last that is into her rugby... Judging by your comments ur knowledgeable too!
Ur fellaus very lucky....
Surely u think that there is some hope of the Aussies triumphantly walking away with # 3 ?
I think ur right about nz too, such a rugby strong nation there us a lot if pressure for them fo succeed. Watching them last night I was actually thinking to myself that it is a reflection of what a strong Nd proud rugby culture they have that I was surprised to see Sonny Bill playing, such a contrast to us with Matt Rogers, Wendell Sailor, Lotti etc...
In saying that I can't see the same kind of story for nz that south Africa had when hosting the world cup in the 90s.
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I get disappointed when people say Rogers, Sailor and Tiquiri didn't contribute to Rugby. Rogers won several tests with his guile, step and goal kicking but had to play second fiddle (rightly so) to Larkham and then Giteau. Wendall was a freak on the field and in full flight was an awesome sight.
Lote just happens to be Australia's leading try scorer - not a small contribution. SBW is a different creature - against the second tier nations he will run havoc, but the top teams have figured out how to tackle him and to drive him up and sideways greatly reducing his options for the off load.
A so he may burn brightly for a short while.. or he may just become a capable journeyman centre. Did enjoy it though when he had to replace his jersey last night - those abs are amazing!
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I get disappointed when people say Rogers, Sailor and Tiquiri didn't contribute to Rugby. Rogers won several tests with his guile, step and goal kicking but had to play second fiddle (rightly so) to Larkham and then Giteau. Wendall was a freak on the field and in full flight was an awesome sight.
Lote just happens to be Australia's leading try scorer - not a small contribution. SBW is a different creature - against the second tier nations he will run havoc, but the top teams have figured out how to tackle him and to drive him up and sideways greatly reducing his options for the off load.
A so he may burn brightly for a short while.. or he may just become a capable journeyman centre. Did enjoy it though when he had to replace his jersey last night - those abs are amazing!
I am not suggesting that they did not contribute, though in comparison to SBW inclusion in the all blacks the Rogers, Sailor and Tiquiri seemingly walked into a Wallabies side before earning their stripes by virtue of their contribution to rugby league...
Once there I agree they pulled their weight, to be honest I think that rugby league players have taught the wallabies how to tackle, amongst other things.. I fear with your superior knowledge of the subject you are going to prove me wrong however.. :)
It is yet to be seen how SBW will contribute over time to Ra Ra, but similarly I don't think he will be to union what he was to league.. I missed the shirt change, but must admit I am very envious of his physique.
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Not an expert - just that I have a husband and three brothers who are absolute rugby nutters. It has been a case of either learn or be an outsider in my own family.
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Its not a bad situation to be in, Rugby is the game played in heaven as you know... I'm now living in Melbourne so having to learn AFL...
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I watched USA v Ireland and USA v Russia. Against Ireland...they were just too big and strong but the US played well. Against Russia...the USA were terrific and outclassed the Russians. I'd like to see more but its all pay per view here and I can only watch the freebies.
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Kristin, I think you must be the first American I have ever met being interested in Rugby, good on you!
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I saw the NZ vs France match yesterday and liked it. I don't understand why this sport isn't bigger in North America as it should be. Tons of action and aggression.
It was too bad that the French committed too many mistakes...they really did press on in the latter part of the game.
By the way, is Romania that weak? I mean, England totally destroyedddd them. Ouch.
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Rugby is a game of degrees - just being 5% off the ability of the opponent means you are going to be crushed. It is also a game that rewards innovation and sides like Romania are fairly predictable in attack.
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Kristin, I think you must be the first American I have ever met being interested in Rugby, good on you!
American fans of rugby are out there. It is becoming more popular amongst university aged folk. It won't be replacing American football anytime, but fans are over in the States. Just hard to catch games in the states, in my opinion, unless you happen to have BBC and are able to catch the random game they show. Although one time I was able to catch the NCAA Rugby Tournament (American university) on ESPNU, so that was neat.
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Kristin, I think you must be the first American I have ever met being interested in Rugby, good on you!
American fans of rugby are out there. It is becoming more popular amongst university aged folk. It won't be replacing American football anytime, but fans are over in the States. Just hard to catch games in the states, in my opinion, unless you happen to have BBC and are able to catch the random game they show. Although one time I was able to catch the NCAA Rugby Tournament (American university) on ESPNU, so that was neat.
I guess in some ways we are similar in that I don't understand the appeal of Grid Iron in the same ways Rugby is not popular in the states, I am pleased to hear that it is gaining popularity.
After all I saw a docco recently that was talking about brain injury, and they were showing the American football culture, some of those boys are massive, I can only imagine what would happen if rugby gained popularity amongst some of those guys.
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And now there are four and I have no idea who is the likely winner. The All Blacks remain a threat but are carrying a lot of injuries, Australia can win but have to overcome the hoodoo of Eden Park, France, well it is only a matter of which team will turn up for the semi against Wales. And Wales, looking good in strong company - can they hold form playing Rugby the way it is intended to be played?
Now another clarification:
Soccer is a term for the "beautiful game" properly known as Football and having a World Cup contested by nearly every country on Earth;
Union is a term for the "game they play in heaven" properly known as Rugby and having a World Cup contested by 108 nations across the Earth;
Gridiron is a term used by the history student for the game properly known as American (and sometimes Canadian) Football and a derivative of Rugby. As far as I can determine there is no competition of quality on a global scale between nations;
Cross Country Wrestling or Super League or NRL or rather stupidly "the greatest game of all" is a term used for the oval ball sport properly known as Rugby League. Also a derivative of Rugby but with a World Cup consisting of 12 -16 nations of whom all players live in either England, France, Australia or New Zealand.
Then there is Australian Football and Gaelic Football which seem related but as one is rooted in cricket and the other is a variation of football it should seem odd that occasionally they play a hybrid of both games against each other.
Please read understand and get the terms right!
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Leah despite there not being a competition on a global scale between teams, superbowl winners still call themselves "world champions". So go figure!!!
Go wallabies! :66664333
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New Zealand / France .. / ..
Who will win the Webb Ellis trophy ?? on which score ??
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The AB's way too powerful for the Aussies last night ... Quade Cooper didn't rise to the occasion, Dagg / Jane magnificent under high-ball pressure, Cruden did everything that was asked of him. Our scrum blew theirs away, and they rarely got go-forward ball. As always, Ritchie McCaw led from the front and showed no sign of his foot injury.
I would have preferred to have played Wales in the final (they deserved it, but just couldn't convert their penalties which the only reason they're not there). I think France were lucky to scrape through, and if the ABs put another performance together like last night next week, it'll be a walk over in the final.
BUT ... the French being the French ... you just never know.
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The French are bad but not the best, they have already beaten the black so masterful, but also took great derusted. It will certainly have the tension of the two sides.
The black is still the best in the world, but as I hope the French still win blue
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Devastated with the wallabies result! Hope they can bounce back against wales
good luck to the all blacks for the final though. Hopefully will be a good clash
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Congratulations New Zealand!! only by 1 point, but that's all you need for victory. Well played France.
Also Congratulations to Australia for defeating Wales to finish 3rd in the 2011 World Cup.
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The black made many many mistakes by not whistled arbrite they won thanks to him.
It's sickening.
All Black victory shabby.
Cheaters.
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The black made many many mistakes by not whistled arbrite they won thanks to him.
It's sickening.
All Black victory shabby.
Cheaters.
Now now..Elodie. Sportsmanship, especially in a village who has a few Kiwis! (us).
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The black made many many mistakes by not whistled arbrite they won thanks to him.
It's sickening.
All Black victory shabby.
Cheaters.
Would you have still made this post if this (very close) result had gone the other way? :rolleyes:
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The black made many many mistakes by not whistled arbrite they won thanks to him.
It's sickening.
All Black victory shabby.
Cheaters.
Now now..Elodie. Sportsmanship, especially in a village who has a few Kiwis! (us).
Danee sorry but I have a fair play, provided that the rules are strictly adhered to by the referee. A referee can make mistakes, but in that game that was not the case
The black made many many mistakes by not whistled arbrite they won thanks to him.
It's sickening.
All Black victory shabby.
Cheaters.
Would you have still made this post if this (very close) result had gone the other way? :rolleyes:
This is not a story to go one way or the other is that arbitration was not impartial.
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I also followed this World Cup and I must say that despite their defeat against the All Black during the final, the French Rugby team did a very honourable match! :2345