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Title: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Danee on June 11, 2010, 01:35:37 am
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It is plainly obvious that visible minorities are under-represented in naturism. In this episode, we try to understand why and ascertain what can be done to change the situation.

From: The Naturist Living Show from Canada -- a Podcast
http://www.bareoaks.ca/podcast/Minorities.mp3 (http://www.bareoaks.ca/podcast/Minorities.mp3)
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: genxnaturist on June 11, 2010, 02:12:04 am
Bareoaks makes some great podcasts.  Its nice, that they talk about such things.  I dont exactly agree with 100 percent of everything said though.  I do wish there were more shows out there about such.

As far as minorities in Naturism, aside from women being a minority, it seems that there arent many african americans or asians into such.  Though it does seem that there are many latinos and people from south america who are more into such.  I think its in part because they have more healthy attitude about body.   When i was in Santa Cruz, friend from brazil it was refreshing to see how uninhibited towards her body he was.

Michael
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: i-naked on June 26, 2010, 08:02:44 am
Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm Andre from i-Naked/i-Nudist who took part in that podcast.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: joeyn on June 26, 2010, 03:00:45 pm
Where I live (South Central Texas) the majority of the population is Latino, however I rarely see any/many at naturist locales.

Joey
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Stuart on June 26, 2010, 03:13:10 pm
I can remember seeing a couple who I think were of central Asian origin (India maybe) at a swim in Edinburgh, but that's it.

Similarly, I've never met anyone while hillwalking in the highlands who wasn't white. Plenty of Americans & Europeans, but always white. No idea why.

There are some parts of the highlands though where you count as an ethnic minority if you have a different surname...
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Fitz1980 on June 26, 2010, 03:21:15 pm
When I lived in South Florida I'd see a fair amount of Spanish people at Haulover.  Of course there are lots of Spanish people in that area in the first place and many of them wear swimsuits are are almost naked at the regular pool.

Than there's my (now deceased) nude beach buddy Andrea.

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_ea3cdc7f338e21450adafbb6aa69cc39.jpg)
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Luke M on June 26, 2010, 03:43:32 pm
I have seen minorities just the one time I went to Haulover. And both times I went to Sunsport.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: brandon on June 26, 2010, 04:43:15 pm
I've seen lots of male African American naturists, but rarely, if ever, an African American woman.

I've seen Latino and Latina naturists, but Spanish-speaking young males usually wear clothes (not swimsuits) and are often there to gawk.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Ace001 on June 26, 2010, 05:47:43 pm
I am an African American male and I can honestly say that most of the time when I go places, I am the only black person I see, or one of the very few.

I think most of it has to do with religion/culture that most black people embrace. I hate tracing things back like this, but religion is so important to a lot of black families, something that had been instilled from slavery, segregation, etc. that most won't stray or question it. From that, nudity becomes this sexual thing which your entire family frowns upon. You're only supposed to be naked when you're washing, and with your love. That's it. Otherwise you're being inappropriate and someone has to set you straight. As far as younger kids go, most youths are in not so great areas that promote how cool/popular you are by the things you own, especially clothes. When I was growing up it was important to have the brand new jordans, all the matching clothes, all the name brands etc. Girls wouldn't talk to you if you didn't have the right gear, if you wore old stuff, or mismatched you got clowned on, and the better your clothes were the more people respected you. It's part of the hip hop culture. The emphasis is on things, not people. The focus is on getting money, and more especially what you can buy with that money. Having really nice clothes everyone knows about shows you have money and status just like that music artist. Then there's also gang related things where clothes are important signs of what gang you're affiliated with or who you're not with. I remember avoiding wearing reds and blues when I lived at home just to avoid problems and concentrated on blacks/whites/greys and random colors like green and purple. Of course this doesn't work for every black person in America, but it's definitely a reason why for some, especially if you look at the stats of religion/socioeconomic status.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: brandon on June 26, 2010, 08:00:22 pm
The African Americans I have seen probably do not consider themselves part of the stereotypical youth culture you describe. The African American males I see, with a few exceptions, are by themselves or with a white male or female partner, so they might identify more with white culture.

I haven't seen many middle aged or older or overweight African Americans. Most are in their 20s and look like they spend a lot of time at the gym. (In contrast, most white naturists are over 30, many over 60, and many are overweight, i.e. average Texans.)
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Danee on June 26, 2010, 09:51:28 pm
Interesting and educational.....

-D
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Ace001 on June 27, 2010, 03:43:07 am
The African Americans I have seen probably do not consider themselves part of the stereotypical youth culture you describe. The African American males I see, with a few exceptions, are by themselves or with a white male or female partner, so they might identify more with white culture.

I haven't seen many middle aged or older or overweight African Americans. Most are in their 20s and look like they spend a lot of time at the gym. (In contrast, most white naturists are over 30, many over 60, and many are overweight, i.e. average Texans.)


Be careful of what you say. Just because they have white friends/partners does not mean they identify with white culture. Also I was speaking for the majority, not the minority. So the few black people you may know that don't identify with that culture are not the rule, but the exception. Exceptions don't work in what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: brandon on June 27, 2010, 05:27:13 am
Sorry if my post came across as disagreeing. I think your post was bang on in explaining why the people you described who put a lot of emphasis on clothing and material possessions are unlikely to be found at a clothing optional beach. I was just saying that the people I had observed probably don't fit the pattern you describe.

I suppose I was leaping to conclusions to say they might identify more with white culture. Black culture is diverse, so they could easily identify with different subsets.

I should get away from this labeling thing anyhow. One of the reasons people practice naturism is that they want to be treated as individuals, and not prejudged on the basis of clothing or cars.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Riot.EXE on June 27, 2010, 01:04:15 pm
I am an African American male and I can honestly say that most of the time when I go places, I am the only black person I see, or one of the very few.

I think most of it has to do with religion/culture that most black people embrace. I hate tracing things back like this, but religion is so important to a lot of black families, something that had been instilled from slavery, segregation, etc. that most won't stray or question it. From that, nudity becomes this sexual thing which your entire family frowns upon. You're only supposed to be naked when you're washing, and with your love. That's it. Otherwise you're being inappropriate and someone has to set you straight. As far as younger kids go, most youths are in not so great areas that promote how cool/popular you are by the things you own, especially clothes. When I was growing up it was important to have the brand new jordans, all the matching clothes, all the name brands etc. Girls wouldn't talk to you if you didn't have the right gear, if you wore old stuff, or mismatched you got clowned on, and the better your clothes were the more people respected you. It's part of the hip hop culture. The emphasis is on things, not people. The focus is on getting money, and more especially what you can buy with that money. Having really nice clothes everyone knows about shows you have money and status just like that music artist. Then there's also gang related things where clothes are important signs of what gang you're affiliated with or who you're not with. I remember avoiding wearing reds and blues when I lived at home just to avoid problems and concentrated on blacks/whites/greys and random colors like green and purple. Of course this doesn't work for every black person in America, but it's definitely a reason why for some, especially if you look at the stats of religion/socioeconomic status.

Basically this.

I'm Black AND Hispanic and this dude is so right it's not even funny.  Granted, I grew up in a multi-ethnic environment my entire life pre-chicago (6 years in New York, 14 years in Houston)...what Ace is saying is ridiculously true.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: joeyn on June 28, 2010, 12:44:20 pm
... but Spanish-speaking young males usually wear clothes (not swimsuits) and are often there to gawk.

Sounds like Hippie Hollow in Austin only they aren't always young either.

Joey
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Fitz1980 on June 28, 2010, 02:05:39 pm
think most of it has to do with religion/culture that most black people embrace. I hate tracing things back like this, but religion is so important to a lot of black families, something that had been instilled from slavery, segregation, etc. that most won't stray or question it.

I used to live in South Florida and saw plenty of black (& other minority) naked people at Haulover.  The whole South Florida area is just very minority-heavy.  Most nudist resorts are located in rural areas that are mostly white.  Let's be honest if the place is 15 minutes away you are more likely to frequent than if it's 2 hours away.

A few years back I had a roommate who was older than me and had a very ethnically diverse heritage.  She considered herself black as she was dark skinned, had been married to a black man for 10 years & mostly dated black men.  When me and our other roommate Maria asked her & her BF (a black man) to join us on a visit to the nudist resort she said that BF wouldn't be OK with it because "black people don't do that kind of stuff & think it's weird."  Ironically she was often casually naked with us at the apt; plus she had told us that when her kids were still living at home she or they would be casually naked with no problems.  But apparently if you talk about going to a nudist resort it get casually naked among strangers the response is "[most] black folk don't do that."

There are obvious acceptations, such as my friend Andrea from my above picture.  She loved nudity for it's own sake.  She spent a few years in Iceland as a college soccer player.  She lived in a dorm/house style place & told me that she quickly developed a reputation as the "naked girl."  They had semi-private bedrooms but bathrooms, kitchen & living space were communal.  Apparently she quickly developed the reputation of being "the naked girl" because you could often find her cooking something, walking back from the shower or just watching TV naked and thinking nothing of it.

The first time I took her to Haulover we were walking though that tunnel that goes under Route A1A (separating the parking lot from the beach) & she kept asking "can I get naked yet?"
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Baseballfan on June 29, 2010, 05:22:45 am
I've seen some asian and hispanic nudists. Its always a pleasant suprise to see more non-white try nudism!
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Ace001 on June 29, 2010, 03:26:20 pm
I've seen some asian and hispanic nudists. Its always a pleasant suprise to see more non-white try nudism!



I actually had a lovely conversation with a Japanese woman in Japanese at Red Rock. Quite the pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Kismet on June 29, 2010, 04:31:41 pm
Thanks for spurring this very important topic, Danee.

Just this last weekend I was thinking about how it seemed like there were more non-white folks nude on the beach. Could be it has been increasing gradually without my knowing it, but it really seemed as though some watershed moment had passed, at least in the northeast. I can remember going from Lighthouse to another beach in the same day, and seeing an obvious change-over from all white (Lighthouse) to very intermixed, to all non-white. But the other day I saw Black couples, men and women, latinos and latinas, obviously gay and straight couples, I don't recall seeing any folks of asian decent but that doesn't mean they weren't there (I didn't go to make a study, after all). All very good and hopeful, it seemed to me.

 :2345   
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: i-naked on July 01, 2010, 09:22:26 am
A while ago I wrote on my blog about race and naturism you can read it here: http://i-naked.info/blog/files/869980c900d752715867954a6362b345-51.html (http://i-naked.info/blog/files/869980c900d752715867954a6362b345-51.html) (I will copy it and paste it onto the board later on)
Title: Re: Minorities in Naturism,
Post by: Danee on May 26, 2017, 04:17:14 pm
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