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Naturist Resources => Blogs, Videos, Articles about Naturism/Nudity => Videos => Topic started by: Danee on June 07, 2010, 03:28:35 pm
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This is a simple film of an average family enjoying a day at their favorite nude beach. The dialogue is in German.
Dies ist ein einfacher Film eine durchschnittliche Familie genießen dort einen Tag am beliebtesten FKK-Strand. Es ist schade, dass der Dialog nur in Deutsch ist.
http://moresisek.com/media/8f32a308892fb095-4ae5245fbee491637c213928c809eaa05bde96f4e4d19c8c5b94ed3354ba0076.mp4
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Thanks, Danee!
I didn't understand much of the dialogue, but it certainly showed that naturism is a family-friendly form of recreation. Too bad most Americans can't appreciate that concept.
The average age on that beach appeared to be about 30 years lower than at Haulover Beach in Florida.
Does anyone have an idea when that movie was made? Perhaps our German members can tell from hairstyles, etc.
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I posted a link to this in the German section, Bran, without posting the video there (to make them come outside their comfort zone and come here!) Lissy will tell us if no one else can, when she returns.
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aha, this is one ofthe few links that i could actually view. although not understanding what were said but it seems a nice day out for families.
it reminds me of the englisch garten in munchen, only it was on grass but not sand
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Nice find Danee! I too would love to know what they said, but it all looked very natural and relaxed. Thank you.
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it seems to be a video produced in the 70s. They talk about classical-education and about friendship, the relationship between parents and kids and holiday at sylt eg beach of sylt in germany.
Fathers part:
"Our democratic society needs free and critical people. We´ve dedicated/adjusted/orientated the education of our kids at these principles.
Non autocratic-education sometimes is harder than the education to strict obedience (say yes to everything). But the result is worth for the parents.
But who conceives a child to get fans or patriots should educate his kids autorcratic.
Here you can see us at holiday town sylt. My son Till, he´s 15, my daughter Cornelia, she´s 16 and always in love how most of the teenagers in this age. My wife Marlies, we know each other about 20 years and are happily married for 17 years."
Mother:
"Let´s go swimming.".
That was the 1st minute for all english speaking members in here. Sorry for bad translation. Someday my english will be better!
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I didnt see that clip before. It's nice but how marmal said it is old and I think today there might be other statements
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very good clip. i didn´t see before. it´s old but good and still actual.
the boy at the end, they known from the year before, is there the first time without parents, but with a group of youth.
as he go back to his group, he put on his pants. some kind of double moral standard.
it shows that the accepting is especially a problem at this age.
when i look at this, i want to go to the beach..
but my heath didn´t allow this :(
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the boy at the end, they known from the year before, is there the first time without parents, but with a group of youth.
as he go back to his group, he put on his pants. some kind of double moral standard.
Thanks for the explanation. I thought maybe he was going to a textile section of the beach.
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That is what I thought too, Bran. Yet, his friends certainly weren't put off by their nudity at all, were they.
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ahahahaha, if this video is not a propaganda thing from the former DDR, "i will eat a broom"(german idiom. expession) :D
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This film is called in German : "Dein Kind, das unbekannte Wesen" (Your child, the unknown nature) It was made by Oswalt Kolle in 1970.
It is a lurid pseudo-scientific film about first sexual feelings from children and youth in the ending 60s and early 70s of the last century.
About Oswalt Kolle:
Oswalt Kolle (born 2 October 1928 in Kiel) is a German sex educator, who became famous during the 1960s for his numerous books and films on human sexuality. His work was translated into all major languages, while his films found an audience of 140 million worldwide.
In his 1997 book Open to Both Sides he came out as a bisexual. He was awarded the Magnus Hirschfeld Medal in 2000.
If you want to see the whole movie, you have to click here http://filespump.com/download/19290315-dein-kind-das-unbekannte-wesen-1970-oswalt-kolle-avi-001.html (http://filespump.com/download/19290315-dein-kind-das-unbekannte-wesen-1970-oswalt-kolle-avi-001.html)
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ok, no ddr
but still full of political statements, although i still do not like it, i acknowledge that maybe this video and mr. kolle was some kind of groundbreaking back then
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Yeah, very different time. Quite a lot of Kolle's stuff (and boy, did he churn out a lot) is quite insulting to modern sensibilities.
But he was trying to tear down some old, old preconceptions. In a way, this was a by-product of the 68 movement and our society is better off for it.
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as Lisa already wrote, this is a film of Oswald Kolle, so it is not a film of a typical german family at a nudist beach. anyway it is a funny film
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I was wanting to download the movie. Looks like the government has shut down filespump.com.
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too bad. I was curious about the rest of the film. From what i've seen of the film and the beach that i've been to, the germans certainly seem to be much livlier at the beach than us americans.
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Here are some new links to that film
http://rapidshare.com/files/407854936/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part8.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407854936/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part8.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407850362/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part7.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407850362/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part7.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407845347/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part6.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407845347/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part6.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407840551/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part5.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407840551/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part5.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407835470/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part4.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407835470/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part4.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407831009/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part3.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407831009/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part3.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407826963/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part2.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407826963/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part2.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407823114/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part1.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407823114/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part1.rar)
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Great Video!
Does anybody know where that beach is? (It looks like it is somewhere along the North Sea.)
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The way they talk reminds me of educational videos for elementary school. Example (2:30 - 3:14):
Father: "You're better offf than we were back then. You're a lot more free."
Son: "I don't know. Do you really think? I think one can't compare today to your time."
Father: "Look at yourself, for example. The camera is running, you're being filmed naked. Does that bother you?"
Son: "Of course not. Being nude is completely natural and normal. Underneath our clothes, we all look the same."
Father: "Well, almost. Cornelia, you're 16 now, you fall in love, you flirt with boys... do you mind if you get to know a boy nude or dressed, or if he gets to know you nude or dressed?"
Daughter: "No, the most important thing is a boy is nice/kind. I'm not interested in morons or posers, nude or dressed."
They try to make it look like it was a real conversation, but it is clearly staged. I never liked that kind of educational material.
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Interesting, what is happening at the end when the daughter and that guy meet the people in bathing suits?
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Interesting, what is happening at the end when the daughter and that guy meet the people in bathing suits?
Its been explained above...
Its his friends who came to say hi..and he goes off with them, leaving the N/FKK area and thats ok. All accept it and all know its fine, either way. Hes not leaving the lifestyle, he is just going off with his other friends, thats all.
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I figured everything turned out ok...for some reason it seems more recent then 1970 doesn't it??
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I saw this movie before, over ten years ago, and yeah I agree with Lisa, lurid is definitely good word to describe it. The nude beach scenes are pretty good, although the majority of the people there were young and attractive, and there are a lot more girls there than I have ever seen on any nude beach in North America, Europe, or Australia.
But the rest of the movie yikes!
I don’t really have any problems with that teen boy after putting his swim suit back on and joining his textile friends 5 minutes later fooling around with a girl and fondling her bare breasts. Followed by the scene where a bunch of guys pull down another guys underwear while he is sleeping and smearing boot polish on him. Or a few minutes after that, a young nude couple on the beach making out and caressing their bodies and touching the girls pubic area and rubbing the guys erect penis. Nor do I have any problem with the extremely graphic child birth scene, as it’s no worse than anything shown in a high school sex ed class.
My issue is that they have a lengthy scene of families on a nude beach, people of all ages nude in a non sexual manner. In a film that shows teens having sex or at least performing sexual acts. Now I don’t speak German and admittedly it has been a while since I’ve seen this movie but, doesn’t it sort of sexualize the nude beach part a bit? I do remember the dad while on the nude beach asking his 16 year old daughter, Cornelia, if she is comfortable with guys seeing her nude body and she replies that she doesn’t mind at all, but that is all I remember, other than the bit that Marmal was kind enough to translate for us Anglos.
It just seems that this film is about teenage sexuality so the producers just filmed on a nude beach filled with young people as an easy way to show a bunch of naked teens. I didn’t mind so much when I first saw it when I was 14 or 15 years old, as me and a few of my friends were always looking for old 1970’s and 1980’s European movies that had lots of sex and nudity of people our age. But since I got introduced to nudism and definitely as I have gotten older I really have no tolerance for stuff like that. I don’t mind some one taking pictures of, or filming people under 18 years old on a nude beach. As long as it doesn’t seem lurid. But those teen and preteen nudist beauty pageant videos that are advertised on most nudist sites don’t sit well with me. Just like this film, but it was made in the 70‘s, it was apparently a different time, that whole sexual revolution and all, so I guess it can be forgiven.
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I may be mistaken, but did you not once say you performed a play with another young teenager and enacted sexual scenes on the stage? And..no one shut it down...
Could be wrong...
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Not quite, I once watched a play that had two of my friends who went nude and enacted sexual scenes. I doubt I would sit through anything that had two 16 year olds naked and having sex in it now a days, but I did when I was 16.
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Could be an interesting thread. Sex as art. Simulated sex i don't see as being that bad providing it's part of the overall story and not thrown in there to get peoples attention doesn't add to the art or play at all.
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I'm going to add an English subtitle to the film after christmas.
It's amazing how different, revolutionary our society was in the 1970s. 40 years later one can say that not every development that started in the 1970s was good for society, nonetheless I think the benefits overbalance.
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When I clicked on the links, I got this...
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In Germany you can download the parts
there is no notice
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aww thats a shame i was going to watch this video as it sounds kinda interesting but its been deleted :(
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I gave up, Win Rar didn't want to extract it, so unless someone has it in zip format or something else less exotic, I'm not going to be able to see it. Not so important anyway in the scheme of things.
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Perhaps Lissy can find the film again?
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Well seeing videos isn't so important. They're also expensive, sold like porn. And yes, making another reference here, but like porn, where's the fun in watching the nude action if you can't be there to enjoy it? Sorry if the analogy is crude, I just hope the context is right.
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Well seeing videos isn't so important. They're also expensive, sold like porn. And yes, making another reference here, but like porn, where's the fun in watching the nude action if you can't be there to enjoy it? Sorry if the analogy is crude, I just hope the context is right.
Ok, not problem. It was just a cool depiction of real fkk naturism though. Family naturism, interviews.
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the links are online , here you can see them again
they were never down
downloadlink
http://rapidshare.com/files/407823114/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part1.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407823114/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part1.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407826963/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part2.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407826963/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part2.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407831009/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part3.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407831009/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part3.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407835470/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part4.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407835470/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part4.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407840551/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part5.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407840551/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part5.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407845347/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part6.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407845347/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part6.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407850362/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part7.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407850362/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part7.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407854936/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part8.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407854936/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.part8.rar)
http://rapidshare.com/files/407813998/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407813998/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.rar)
23.03.2012: All links are closed after reporting trough jlaidler
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Enough with the bloody .rar files, doesn't anyone use WinZip anymore?
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Enough with the bloody .rar files, doesn't anyone use WinZip anymore?
Use WinRAR instead.
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Sorry Lisa, that was rude of me. And I did try WinRar. It doesn't want to extract it's own file types, keeps saying I need to unpack an earlier volume, what ever that means. And this was a direct download from WinRar. Oh well, I could try using the netbook to do it, it's running a linux OS and can extract WinRar files. Sometimes goes buggo though. I'll see. Thanks for the links anyway, I do appreciate it.
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You might try 7-Zip (http://www.7-zip.org/).
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I think I see what's going on now, 7zip gave me the same message, only this time is said file broken. I accidentally downloaded part 8, so I thought oh I'll just watch the last bit and see if it's worth going through Rapidshare's hassle of waiting 10 minutes between downloads or something like that. It looks like I need to use the program to extract all the files together and have them put back together. Bit of a bother, but you all say the film is really good, so I'll give it a go. Thanks guys.
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I wonder why Rapidshare has such a long wait period between downloads? I don't know about everyone else, but that's more likely to alienate people and cause them to decide not to pay for their own profile and faster speeds with no time limits between downloads. At least Megaupload and fileserve are fairly fast and don't make you wait 20 minutes between each download. Oh well, I'm about half way through with those files, nearly there.
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Finally watched the film, I really liked it. Thanks for the encouragement to see it, it was a real eye opener. even in another language I still was able to learn interesting and useful things about what this site's about. I hope to be useful with my contributions in the immediate future.
Are there any other films around similar to this? Love to know more about the culture from the inside perspective.
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the links are online , here you can see them again
they were never down
downloadlink
http://rapidshare.com/files/407813998/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/407813998/Oswalt_Kolle_-_Dein_Kind_-_das_unbekannte_Wesen_-_1970.rar)
I can't download the last one, is it only my problem? or the link is down?
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I can answer that. If you have parts 1 through 8 you should be fine. When using WinRar or 7-zip, just open it up, and when you go to extract it there should be an 8th icon for the video which you didn't download, that's the file which tells the program how to put it back together. So select all 9 of them in 7-zip if you use that and just click extract, or you can select all 8 files in the folder they're kept and drag them into WinRar or 7-zip. Hope it works and I'm not clueless at explaining things. Good luck, James.
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Thank you! I done it! :2345
I thought last part was necessary.....
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Good to know, hope you enjoy the film.
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Am I being stupid, every time I hit the play button the vi disappears.... am I oing somehing dumb?
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Media software can be outright goofy. Try different ways of playing it, or just try other players. SM Player works well for it.
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Am I being stupid, every time I hit the play button the vi disappears.... am I oing somehing dumb?
If you're talking about the vid on the first page of this thread, it has been removed out by whoever posted it on Dailymotion, I got the same "surprise" :54
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Since @Danee bumped this thread. I'll mention I watched this on a video sharing site, some of the translations provided certainly help me understand the film. This film was made when even talking the basics was taboo for a lot people so as previously mentioned Oswalt Kolle was breaking down some barriers he made similar films about adults and adult relationships not featuring the mix of naturism and sex education. All the films can be brought on Amazon on amazon.de at least
The FKK Museum provides a description including the location of the beach translated below
" Your child, the unknown being " was the first successful book by Oswalt Kolle (born on October 2, 1928 in Kiel, died September 24, 2010 in Amsterdam), which was filmed in 1970 . Schauplatz among other things the nudist beach of Sylt, where he includes his family in the film. In front of the camera, Oswalt Kolle conducts enlightenment talks with his two sons - and with his daughter he talks about methods and methods of prevention. He also speaks openly with his children about self-abasement and homosexuality.
The sexual enlightenment was still quite a taboo in the 1960s, and it was generally accepted that children were sexual beings who would develop their sexuality only at the beginning of puberty. Oswalt Kolle, in the first place, gave a thorough understanding of these old ideas: there is sexuality in the childhood, and it must be affirmed, not combated or suppressed.
The film itself is now a rarity.
In 1992 there was an abridged version on TV.
Interesting for us, its linkage of free body culture and sexual enlightenment.
http://www.fkk-museum.de/seite304.html
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Thanks, Daniel (as always) for that. Our old friend Lisa told me about it and how she watched it growing up in Germany. I watched the flilm and those were definitely some different times.
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Since @Danee bumped this thread. I'll mention I watched this on a video sharing site, some of the translations provided certainly help understand the film. This film was made when even talking the basics was taboo for a lot people so as previously mentioned Oswalt Kolle was breaking down some barriers he made similar films about adults and adult relationships not featuring the mix of naturism and sex education. All the films can be brought on Amazon on amazon.de at least
The FKK Museum provides a description including the location of the beach translated below
" Your child, the unknown being " was the first successful book by Oswalt Kolle (born on October 2, 1928 in Kiel, died September 24, 2010 in Amsterdam), which was filmed in 1970 . Schauplatz among other things the nudist beach of Sylt, where he includes his family in the film. In front of the camera, Oswalt Kolle conducts enlightenment talks with his two sons - and with his daughter he talks about methods and methods of prevention. He also speaks openly with his children about self-abasement and homosexuality.
The sexual enlightenment was still quite a taboo in the 1960s, and it was generally accepted that children were sexual beings who would develop their sexuality only at the beginning of puberty. Oswalt Kolle, in the first place, gave a thorough understanding of these old ideas: there is sexuality in the childhood, and it must be affirmed, not combated or suppressed.
The film itself is now a rarity.
In 1992 there was an abridged version on TV.
Interesting for us, its linkage of free body culture and sexual enlightenment.
http://www.fkk-museum.de/seite304.html
Hi Daniel
Just wondering where you found this film in its entirety, I previously watched a snippet of this film a few years ago but never found the film as a whole.
Thanks
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I always suspected that some of scenes taken out of context were part of a larger and genuinely educational narrative. Truly a pity that this philosophy did not take root and blossom. Instead, the world is force fed repression and shame.
Yes completely agree. So many educational films are taken out of context because of the small scenes that are usually talked about without the knowledge of what that scene represents in a entire film.
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Since @Danee bumped this thread. I'll mention I watched this on a video sharing site, some of the translations provided certainly help understand the film. This film was made when even talking the basics was taboo for a lot people so as previously mentioned Oswalt Kolle was breaking down some barriers he made similar films about adults and adult relationships not featuring the mix of naturism and sex education. All the films can be brought on Amazon on amazon.de at least
The FKK Museum provides a description including the location of the beach translated below
" Your child, the unknown being " was the first successful book by Oswalt Kolle (born on October 2, 1928 in Kiel, died September 24, 2010 in Amsterdam), which was filmed in 1970 . Schauplatz among other things the nudist beach of Sylt, where he includes his family in the film. In front of the camera, Oswalt Kolle conducts enlightenment talks with his two sons - and with his daughter he talks about methods and methods of prevention. He also speaks openly with his children about self-abasement and homosexuality.
The sexual enlightenment was still quite a taboo in the 1960s, and it was generally accepted that children were sexual beings who would develop their sexuality only at the beginning of puberty. Oswalt Kolle, in the first place, gave a thorough understanding of these old ideas: there is sexuality in the childhood, and it must be affirmed, not combated or suppressed.
The film itself is now a rarity.
In 1992 there was an abridged version on TV.
Interesting for us, its linkage of free body culture and sexual enlightenment.
http://www.fkk-museum.de/seite304.html
Hi Daniel
Just wondering where you found this film in its entirety, I previously watched a snippet of this film a few years ago but never found the film as a whole.
Thanks
I can't find it any more sorry