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Title: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 17, 2021, 08:20:52 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Dogoegma on November 17, 2021, 09:11:55 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Many of us have been preaching the same message forever, and have made numerous attempts to get something like that launched. If I can get some initial funding, I would like to launch a project like that.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 17, 2021, 09:34:19 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Many of us have been preaching the same message forever, and have made numerous attempts to get something like that launched. If I can get some initial funding, I would like to launch a project like that.

Oh, cool! ^^

So you have any ideas on mind? ^^

Also... yeah... some times it can get difficult to get the money to do stuff like that.. but well... some times it isn't necessary that much.
We can start with more simple and accessible things and evolve from there! ^^
 
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Redfrigginriot on November 18, 2021, 07:22:42 pm
I completely agree. All the nudist media that exists is super outdated like boomer comics or extremely perverse. Ive thrown around the idea of doing a nude dnd campaign online but I just don't know how well that would work.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Dogoegma on November 18, 2021, 08:48:39 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Many of us have been preaching the same message forever, and have made numerous attempts to get something like that launched. If I can get some initial funding, I would like to launch a project like that.

Oh, cool! ^^

So you have any ideas on mind? ^^

Also... yeah... some times it can get difficult to get the money to do stuff like that.. but well... some times it isn't necessary that much.
We can start with more simple and accessible things and evolve from there! ^^

I am tossing around the idea of trying to launch a kickstarter to get a JRPG launched. Though, I am not sure if that is the best route.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 18, 2021, 11:06:35 pm
I completely agree. All the nudist media that exists is super outdated like boomer comics or extremely perverse. Ive thrown around the idea of doing a nude dnd campaign online but I just don't know how well that would work.

Don't worry about "how well it would work". As far as you are doing something you find interesting, I am sure something cool would come from it! ^^

That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Many of us have been preaching the same message forever, and have made numerous attempts to get something like that launched. If I can get some initial funding, I would like to launch a project like that.

Oh, cool! ^^

So you have any ideas on mind? ^^

Also... yeah... some times it can get difficult to get the money to do stuff like that.. but well... some times it isn't necessary that much.
We can start with more simple and accessible things and evolve from there! ^^

I am tossing around the idea of trying to launch a kickstarter to get a JRPG launched. Though, I am not sure if that is the best route.

Why not?
Anything counts, as far as it is within your reach! ^^
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Redfrigginriot on November 20, 2021, 08:27:47 pm
I completely agree. All the nudist media that exists is super outdated like boomer comics or extremely perverse. Ive thrown around the idea of doing a nude dnd campaign online but I just don't know how well that would work.

Don't worry about "how well it would work". As far as you are doing something you find interesting, I am sure something cool would come from it! ^^
It may not work well because it's basically just the same as a regular dnd campaign. You only know your character is naked if someone brings it up.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 21, 2021, 01:47:42 am
I completely agree. All the nudist media that exists is super outdated like boomer comics or extremely perverse. Ive thrown around the idea of doing a nude dnd campaign online but I just don't know how well that would work.

Don't worry about "how well it would work". As far as you are doing something you find interesting, I am sure something cool would come from it! ^^
It may not work well because it's basically just the same as a regular dnd campaign. You only know your character is naked if someone brings it up.

Ha! XD
Got it! ^^;
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: rockasocka1992 on November 21, 2021, 05:44:06 pm
Agreed ;).
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Dogoegma on November 21, 2021, 09:20:45 pm
I completely agree. All the nudist media that exists is super outdated like boomer comics or extremely perverse. Ive thrown around the idea of doing a nude dnd campaign online but I just don't know how well that would work.

Don't worry about "how well it would work". As far as you are doing something you find interesting, I am sure something cool would come from it! ^^
It may not work well because it's basically just the same as a regular dnd campaign. You only know your character is naked if someone brings it up.
I think a nudist DnD campaign would actually just be one in which the table is clothing-optional. That is how I interpret it.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Kuromi on November 22, 2021, 08:12:18 am
I don't think making games or films on it is gonna change anything. As long as the majority of people see nudism as a quirk rather than something normal these games or films will never make it to become popular enough, and people who would actually watch your film would just treat it as a yet another erotic movie.

Not to mention you need budgets and tons of professionals to make it appealing to the public and not yet another B movie no one ever heard or cares about as first and foremost it should be a good film.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 22, 2021, 01:43:35 pm
I don't think making games or films on it is gonna change anything. As long as the majority of people see nudism as a quirk rather than something normal these games or films will never make it to become popular enough, and people who would actually watch your film would just treat it as a yet another erotic movie.

Not to mention you need budgets and tons of professionals to make it appealing to the public and not yet another B movie no one ever heard or cares about as first and foremost it should be a good film.

Naaah.... it doesn't need to be something that big... and it won't be necessarily be treated as something erotic.

Again... any kind of content would do, as far as it contains nudity being depicted as something normal at any point.

To give bigger examples, even games as Rust, or Conan Exhiles, wich are survival games, but where the character can be nude, as far as they don't ave any equiped item, and it fits perfectly with the environment of the game, without it feeling forced, or even games as Red Dead Redemption 2 or GTA V, where the animals have visible genitalia (it may sound ridiculous, but in a world where even animals are usually censored in games, drawings and animations, ven this is something) can make a huge difference for slowly getting people more used to nudity as something normal.

Now, going away from the big budget setting, we could for example see a huge amount of indie games developed by independent creators, cool webcomics or even short animations around the internet.
A lot of kinds of content can be produced by one person, or small groups, and a lot of it can be interesting enough to get the attention from a lot of people.
All that would be necessary is for someone to sneak a bit of casual nudity in this kind of content! ^^

Yes... it is true... there would be people that could be attracted to it perceiving it as "erotic", but these ideas would slowly fade as they notice.. that there is nothing there for them. So they would either start getting used to perceiving that nudity as "nothing special", or they would just get bored and go see something else.
And yeah... It is true that smaller projects wouldn't call that much of attention, nor get huge publics. But it doesn't need to... everything starts small... baby steps... all we need is just more content in general.
Also, big budget is not necessary to be mainstream appealing. The "mainstream appeal" is just something that is interesting. Something that people can like and identify with. Something that is charismatic and interesting. Something that a lot of differente people could like, even if it doesn't actually get to reach the "mainstream".

In other words, we need to create content that is actually interesting by itself. Content that we would want to consume, regardless of the nudity...
The nudity must be just something that is there... just there... and not the main reason why we are going for the content in the first place.
And that is how this more casual view on the nudity would start getting more space on the society as a whole.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Kuromi on November 22, 2021, 02:35:48 pm
I don't think making games or films on it is gonna change anything. As long as the majority of people see nudism as a quirk rather than something normal these games or films will never make it to become popular enough, and people who would actually watch your film would just treat it as a yet another erotic movie.

Not to mention you need budgets and tons of professionals to make it appealing to the public and not yet another B movie no one ever heard or cares about as first and foremost it should be a good film.

Naaah.... it doesn't need to be something that big... and it won't be necessarily be treated as something erotic.

Again... any kind of content would do, as far as it contains nudity being depicted as something normal at any point.

To give bigger examples, even games as Rust, or Conan Exhiles, wich are survival games, but where the character can be nude, as far as they don't ave any equiped item, and it fits perfectly with the environment of the game, without it feeling forced, or even games as Red Dead Redemption 2 or GTA V, where the animals have visible genitalia (it may sound ridiculous, but in a world where even animals are usually censored in games, drawings and animations, ven this is something) can make a huge difference for slowly getting people more used to nudity as something normal.

Now, going away from the big budget setting, we could for example see a huge amount of indie games developed by independent creators, cool webcomics or even short animations around the internet.
A lot of kinds of content can be produced by one person, or small groups, and a lot of it can be interesting enough to get the attention from a lot of people.
All that would be necessary is for someone to sneak a bit of casual nudity in this kind of content! ^^

Yes... it is true... there would be people that could be attracted to it perceiving it as "erotic", but these ideas would slowly fade as they notice.. that there is nothing there for them. So they would either start getting used to perceiving that nudity as "nothing special", or they would just get bored and go see something else.
And yeah... It is true that smaller projects wouldn't call that much of attention, nor get huge publics. But it doesn't need to... everything starts small... baby steps... all we need is just more content in general.
Also, big budget is not necessary to be mainstream appealing. The "mainstream appeal" is just something that is interesting. Something that people can like and identify with. Something that is charismatic and interesting. Something that a lot of differente people could like, even if it doesn't actually get to reach the "mainstream".

In other words, we need to create content that is actually interesting by itself. Content that we would want to consume, regardless of the nudity...
The nudity must be just something that is there... just there... and not the main reason why we are going for the content in the first place.
And that is how this more casual view on the nudity would start getting more space on the society as a whole.

It's just I think it would be a small niche indie film/game no one ever head of at best, as big studios would never risk money on on something controversial. The problem is, there's a lot of films that feature nudity as something casual, but it doesn't seem to shift the public opinion on it in the slightest.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 22, 2021, 04:59:59 pm
I don't think making games or films on it is gonna change anything. As long as the majority of people see nudism as a quirk rather than something normal these games or films will never make it to become popular enough, and people who would actually watch your film would just treat it as a yet another erotic movie.

Not to mention you need budgets and tons of professionals to make it appealing to the public and not yet another B movie no one ever heard or cares about as first and foremost it should be a good film.

Naaah.... it doesn't need to be something that big... and it won't be necessarily be treated as something erotic.

Again... any kind of content would do, as far as it contains nudity being depicted as something normal at any point.

To give bigger examples, even games as Rust, or Conan Exhiles, wich are survival games, but where the character can be nude, as far as they don't ave any equiped item, and it fits perfectly with the environment of the game, without it feeling forced, or even games as Red Dead Redemption 2 or GTA V, where the animals have visible genitalia (it may sound ridiculous, but in a world where even animals are usually censored in games, drawings and animations, ven this is something) can make a huge difference for slowly getting people more used to nudity as something normal.

Now, going away from the big budget setting, we could for example see a huge amount of indie games developed by independent creators, cool webcomics or even short animations around the internet.
A lot of kinds of content can be produced by one person, or small groups, and a lot of it can be interesting enough to get the attention from a lot of people.
All that would be necessary is for someone to sneak a bit of casual nudity in this kind of content! ^^

Yes... it is true... there would be people that could be attracted to it perceiving it as "erotic", but these ideas would slowly fade as they notice.. that there is nothing there for them. So they would either start getting used to perceiving that nudity as "nothing special", or they would just get bored and go see something else.
And yeah... It is true that smaller projects wouldn't call that much of attention, nor get huge publics. But it doesn't need to... everything starts small... baby steps... all we need is just more content in general.
Also, big budget is not necessary to be mainstream appealing. The "mainstream appeal" is just something that is interesting. Something that people can like and identify with. Something that is charismatic and interesting. Something that a lot of differente people could like, even if it doesn't actually get to reach the "mainstream".

In other words, we need to create content that is actually interesting by itself. Content that we would want to consume, regardless of the nudity...
The nudity must be just something that is there... just there... and not the main reason why we are going for the content in the first place.
And that is how this more casual view on the nudity would start getting more space on the society as a whole.

It's just I think it would be a small niche indie film/game no one ever head of at best, as big studios would never risk money on on something controversial. The problem is, there's a lot of films that feature nudity as something casual, but it doesn't seem to shift the public opinion on it in the slightest.

Well... yeah... most of the things would indeed go unnoticed... ^^;

But that is one of the reasons why I say "more"...
The idea is just to start creating these kind of contents... the more the better! ^^

Of course it would take a long time until one of these start getting some notoriety, but my idea would be to try to gain some space through numbers... ^^
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Kyle on November 22, 2021, 09:04:42 pm
I don't think nudism needs more mainstream acceptance. I'm totally fine with it being a subculture, or a niche, or whatever. Maybe it's my age, or maybe it's being gay. I just don't feel the need to be widely accepted. At least in my area of the US it's either seen as a weird hippie thing, or a sex thing, but generally it's viewed as benign. I'm fine with that because other people being into it is not going to impede my enjoyment.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 22, 2021, 09:28:25 pm
I don't think nudism needs more mainstream acceptance. I'm totally fine with it being a subculture, or a niche, or whatever. Maybe it's my age, or maybe it's being gay. I just don't feel the need to be widely accepted. At least in my area of the US it's either seen as a weird hippie thing, or a sex thing, but generally it's viewed as benign. I'm fine with that because other people being into it is not going to impede my enjoyment.

Wish I could say the same... :/

Around here, people seem to perceive nudity as worse than murder or something...
And there aren't many options for being nude either...
So to enjoy some nude time, you either have to spend a lot of money traveling thousands of miles to go to a place or event, when available, and probably dealing with a lot of bureaucracy... or you gotta find a way to isolate yourself from pretty much the entire society... :/
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Dogoegma on November 22, 2021, 09:52:42 pm
I don't think making games or films on it is gonna change anything. As long as the majority of people see nudism as a quirk rather than something normal these games or films will never make it to become popular enough, and people who would actually watch your film would just treat it as a yet another erotic movie.

Not to mention you need budgets and tons of professionals to make it appealing to the public and not yet another B movie no one ever heard or cares about as first and foremost it should be a good film.

Sorry, don't know where the response went.

I think there is a big difference between content with nudity, and content with normalized nudity.

Somewhat. I don't think public nudity is being mainstreamed, just the nudity itself (kind of) [and only in specific contexts].
Naaah.... it doesn't need to be something that big... and it won't be necessarily be treated as something erotic.

Again... any kind of content would do, as far as it contains nudity being depicted as something normal at any point.

To give bigger examples, even games as Rust, or Conan Exhiles, wich are survival games, but where the character can be nude, as far as they don't ave any equiped item, and it fits perfectly with the environment of the game, without it feeling forced, or even games as Red Dead Redemption 2 or GTA V, where the animals have visible genitalia (it may sound ridiculous, but in a world where even animals are usually censored in games, drawings and animations, ven this is something) can make a huge difference for slowly getting people more used to nudity as something normal.

Now, going away from the big budget setting, we could for example see a huge amount of indie games developed by independent creators, cool webcomics or even short animations around the internet.
A lot of kinds of content can be produced by one person, or small groups, and a lot of it can be interesting enough to get the attention from a lot of people.
All that would be necessary is for someone to sneak a bit of casual nudity in this kind of content! ^^

Yes... it is true... there would be people that could be attracted to it perceiving it as "erotic", but these ideas would slowly fade as they notice.. that there is nothing there for them. So they would either start getting used to perceiving that nudity as "nothing special", or they would just get bored and go see something else.
And yeah... It is true that smaller projects wouldn't call that much of attention, nor get huge publics. But it doesn't need to... everything starts small... baby steps... all we need is just more content in general.
Also, big budget is not necessary to be mainstream appealing. The "mainstream appeal" is just something that is interesting. Something that people can like and identify with. Something that is charismatic and interesting. Something that a lot of differente people could like, even if it doesn't actually get to reach the "mainstream".

In other words, we need to create content that is actually interesting by itself. Content that we would want to consume, regardless of the nudity...
The nudity must be just something that is there... just there... and not the main reason why we are going for the content in the first place.
And that is how this more casual view on the nudity would start getting more space on the society as a whole.

It's just I think it would be a small niche indie film/game no one ever head of at best, as big studios would never risk money on on something controversial. The problem is, there's a lot of films that feature nudity as something casual, but it doesn't seem to shift the public opinion on it in the slightest.

Sorry, don't know where the response went.

I think there is a difference between content with nudity and content with normalized nudity.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Fishandchips on November 27, 2021, 07:22:47 am
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on November 28, 2021, 04:34:49 pm
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

Yeah... that....
that is a no... -_-;
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Fishandchips on November 29, 2021, 03:41:27 am
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

Yeah... that....
that is a no... -_-;

I don’t know why I expected it to be something interesting and positive when I first saw the link.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Dogoegma on November 29, 2021, 05:08:50 am
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

I would argue that that implies the need for more actual nudist content, to drown out the nonsense.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Fishandchips on November 29, 2021, 09:19:16 am
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

I would argue that that implies the need for more actual nudist content, to drown out the nonsense.

You’re right unfortunately nonsense is all that is produced
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Blake Skies on November 30, 2021, 10:46:40 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Well I run a nudist writers workshop to help create nudist literary content and help nudist writers
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on December 01, 2021, 02:54:26 pm
That is something I talk about a lot with people...

I think that, one of the things that causes nudity to be seen always as something so negative, or sexual, is because media and society as a whole keeps using the image of the nude body like that! Always as something gross, shamefull, weird or as simply an object of sexual desire... just as well as constantly pushing to us the ideas of "perfect body"... well... y'all know what I am talking about.

Anyway... I think the way to counter that, and to get nudity and the body to be more broadly perceived as something normal is, to put it simple, creating more media content depicting it as such!
More arts!
More videogames!
More animations!
More movies!
More comics!
More vlogs!
ANYTHING!

It doesn't even need to be specifically "nudist/naturist media"... discussing the theme, taking place in nudist resorts or having the characters being nude 100% of the time... all it need is to depict uncensored nudity at any point without making fuss about it.

The point is... there are already naturist content out there... but most of it are something that tagets specifically the naturist audience... and/or simply feels way to preachy about nudism...
What we need is content that would be already interesting regardless of the nudity!
Cool content! Interesting videos! Engaging stories! amazing videogames! ... and the nudity... would just be there...

I trully believe that something like that would be the most efficient way to get more people outside from the naturist community to start getting more used to seeing nudity in non-sexual contexts, and being more open-minded about it, what would really benefit all of the community as a whole, including those who don't even label themselves as "nudists", but simply enjoy spending some time in the nude once in a while...

So yeah...
For all of you with and content creation skills...
I suggest giving it a try! ^^

Well I run a nudist writers workshop to help create nudist literary content and help nudist writers

That is really great!

This certainly helps! ^^

I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

I would argue that that implies the need for more actual nudist content, to drown out the nonsense.

Agree...
When I say that we need naturist content, I am talking about content that actually represents our perspective and world view, because there is actually quite a bunch of depictions of nudists and naturists in medias... but almost all of it are negative depictions, with derogatory stereotypes or dumb jokes... what only reinforces the already existing negative view on nudity.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Fishandchips on December 02, 2021, 09:01:39 am
I wish I could say we needed more mainstream nudist media like this bull shit. As funny as it may be the idea that dad gets his clothes off gets a boner, knocks stuff over and destroys his sons relationship with his girlfriend is exactly not what we want to be portrayed in the media. Fuck Doritos!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHyKES1HYw)

I would argue that that implies the need for more actual nudist content, to drown out the nonsense.

Agree...
When I say that we need naturist content, I am talking about content that actually represents our perspective and world view, because there is actually quite a bunch of depictions of nudists and naturists in medias... but almost all of it are negative depictions, with derogatory stereotypes or dumb jokes... what only reinforces the already existing negative view on nudity.

Absolutely right and that video is exactly the kind of negative derogatory dumb joke that goes around
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Blake Skies on August 28, 2023, 09:22:33 pm
I will say that the workshop I run, the nudist writers workshop on Discord, has gotten some pretty good ideas going for nudist related works.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: jamesnotcompletely on September 21, 2023, 04:39:05 am
absolutely! i try so hard to find cool nudist content and media, but unfortunately 9 times out of 10 its just some sexual stuff i dont wanna see. im not asking for a lot, just more media where nudity isn't avoided like the plague!!!!!
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Bobbine on September 21, 2023, 08:00:56 am
absolutely! i try so hard to find cool nudist content and media, but unfortunately 9 times out of 10 its just some sexual stuff i dont wanna see. im not asking for a lot, just more media where nudity isn't avoided like the plague!!!!!

This is the most relatable thing for me, the media always makes it sexual. And it's like this always, you get your hopes up and then it turns out to be the most sexualised thing ever. But they probably only make money due to the sexualisation
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: swede on September 22, 2023, 12:03:28 pm
absolutely! i try so hard to find cool nudist content and media, but unfortunately 9 times out of 10 its just some sexual stuff i dont wanna see. im not asking for a lot, just more media where nudity isn't avoided like the plague!!!!!

This is the most relatable thing for me, the media always makes it sexual. And it's like this always, you get your hopes up and then it turns out to be the most sexualised thing ever. But they probably only make money due to the sexualisation

Yeah, the same reason I think naked wanderings mentioned on the naturist living show about cap d'agde, that it has become a swinger's resort because it's easier to make money that way
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on October 01, 2023, 10:34:54 pm
absolutely! i try so hard to find cool nudist content and media, but unfortunately 9 times out of 10 its just some sexual stuff i dont wanna see. im not asking for a lot, just more media where nudity isn't avoided like the plague!!!!!

This is the most relatable thing for me, the media always makes it sexual. And it's like this always, you get your hopes up and then it turns out to be the most sexualised thing ever. But they probably only make money due to the sexualisation

That part is so frustrating...
People complain so much about nudity, and always try to avoid it at any cost with the argument that "it is something sexual"... but then when they ACTUALLY make it sexual, then suddenly everyone is not only okay with it, but actively interested... -_-
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: ColonelLazuli on October 01, 2023, 10:36:52 pm
absolutely! i try so hard to find cool nudist content and media, but unfortunately 9 times out of 10 its just some sexual stuff i dont wanna see. im not asking for a lot, just more media where nudity isn't avoided like the plague!!!!!

This is the most relatable thing for me, the media always makes it sexual. And it's like this always, you get your hopes up and then it turns out to be the most sexualised thing ever. But they probably only make money due to the sexualisation


Yeah, the same reason I think naked wanderings mentioned on the naturist living show about cap d'agde, that it has become a swinger's resort because it's easier to make money that way

What happened to Cap D'Agde is such a shame...
We lost what was such an amazing place to naturism... in exchange for something that harms our image... :/
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: NudeKiu on October 02, 2023, 06:16:22 am
I thought that it was still a great place and the sexual thing was just a small part? :/
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: spongeman on October 02, 2023, 04:12:55 pm
I thought that it was still a great place and the sexual thing was just a small part? :/

from what I've seen (never been there personally), actual naturism is just a small part.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: NudeKiu on October 03, 2023, 05:21:26 am
I don't quite want to believe or believe that.  :/
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Blake Skies on October 18, 2023, 03:28:44 pm
I'll say again, it's a tough road to climb. The Nudist Writers Workshop I run is basically one of the few areas I know that's working on nudist related stuff while (in a general sense), otherwise you have stuff like Bare Bender, Bare Squadron, and the works.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Ladybug on October 19, 2023, 01:12:55 pm
Im not sure if naturism can ever be a mainstream thing. Im happy to be part of a small community that respects its members
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Octavia on October 21, 2023, 03:59:36 am
Im not sure if naturism can ever be a mainstream thing. Im happy to be part of a small community that respects its members

It would be nice if it was a bit more normalized, but honestly I agree with you to an extent. I like being able to go to nude beaches and such but I don't need it to be super mainstream
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Paprykarz2137 on November 18, 2023, 09:46:06 pm
nah, there are a lot of things on this topic and it won't be more effective. If you have to do something, create some naturist groups on social media (preferably Facebook, although as I see in the West it is mainly for older people, unfortunately) and discuss it on Facebook or Reddit forums, maybe also encourage local swimming pools to organize a night out. naturists, which will, however, attract some people. I don't know how much of our own action there may be, but I doubt that anyone other than passionate propagators would publicly talk about this fact, because everyone has their own normal lives and it would be strange to do such naturist activism.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: jamesnotcompletely on November 19, 2023, 01:26:10 am
if you do research and look around online for nudist content theres a surprising amount of it, but i agree yea it would be nice if there was more of it and it wa s more easily accessible
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: swede on November 19, 2023, 08:32:15 pm
I think we need just more casual nudity in TV and movies aswell. Not explicit naturism, but like just people swimming nude at a lake. Would make people feel like hey that looks nice
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Ladybug on November 20, 2023, 05:38:39 pm
I think we need just more casual nudity in TV and movies aswell. Not explicit naturism, but like just people swimming nude at a lake. Would make people feel like hey that looks nice

Absolutely this. Just have some naked people in the background, dont make a big deal out of it
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: swede on November 27, 2023, 08:29:08 pm
I think we need just more casual nudity in TV and movies aswell. Not explicit naturism, but like just people swimming nude at a lake. Would make people feel like hey that looks nice

Absolutely this. Just have some naked people in the background, dont make a big deal out of it

yep, more impactful if its just treated as nothing special. just normal. dont make the characrter a explicit naturist, dont make the story about naturism.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Blake Skies on December 12, 2023, 10:59:52 pm
I still am trying to write a nudist book, or at least a nudist adventure book that is... good. Right now I'm on my Star Wars Bare Squadron flick while also running the Nudist Writers Workshop (DM for link). But as to writing myself, I'm in a bad funk so I gotta break this before I can get something going.
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: MeraMC on December 14, 2023, 04:14:37 pm
I don't think we really need it, nudism won't be mainstream never because society has her minds washed with it unfortunately. But, being honest, I'd love to see more nudist positive media. An anime about nudists with no sexualised characters and funny slice of life moments would be amazing
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Mosselman on December 31, 2023, 10:15:42 am
The last couple of years we had a couple of talkshows with non-nude naturist guest explaining their lives and debunking myths. Unfortunately that was met with ridicule every time so I think normalizing naturist is far, far away.

Maybe shoving it down peoples throats is the next step  :laughcrying:
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Fishandchips on December 31, 2023, 10:54:35 pm
The last couple of years we had a couple of talkshows with non-nude naturist guest explaining their lives and debunking myths. Unfortunately that was met with ridicule every time so I think normalizing naturist is far, far away.

Maybe shoving it down peoples throats is the next step  :laughcrying:

Same here although the naturist guest were naked but carefully posed to hide things
Title: Re: We need more mainstream nudist media...
Post by: Rob N on February 04, 2024, 11:19:53 pm
After reading most of the contents here, I like the idea of a slow, low key integration that over time invades general society until most people accept nudism/naturism (or at least now that it's a thing that exists and is an option)

A couple of thoughts:

1. This is already happening thanks to the internet. People don't always understand what they are seeing, but there is so much nudist content out there that anyone typing the word nude into Google is going to encounter
non-sexual nudity of some sort. Most of these people go right ahead and see it as sexual anyhow, but I like to think here and there someone sees a beautiful beach with someone nude strolling down the sand and stops and thinks, "that looks like fun".


2. The availability and prevalence of nudism media and information has massively increased in my lifetime!!! Now we have nudist comic strips, actual playable (albeit simple video games), mainstream games that occasionally include nudity just for the heck of it (ie. Conan), movies that include it or the idea of it here and there (My brain goes to Starship Troopers where there was a communal shower scene with men and women and no one even acknowledged the situation as being odd, Family Guy did a whole episode where Meg met a nudist guy and fell for him, even Zootopia had a whole animal nudist resort in their city introducing the idea to a whole LOT of people in a very innocent and cute manner.  Oh, and there's even nudist cruises nowadays!

I existed prior to the widespread adoption of the internet, and if you wanted to know if there was something like a clothing optional beach around you just had to hope you ran across an article in a newspaper or magazine by pure luck. You sure would never see nudity in a comic strip as just a normal thing, and while the movies had a lot more nudity, it was always super sexualized.  So with the internet also came groups like this, and from here came people like me that go on other social media sites and create general nudism positive content for the nudists out there and occasionally with the right hash tags we get someone else interested. I also have a small YouTube channel and I'll post reviews, cook, do home improvement stuff, 90% of the time I'm naked, sometimes on camera, I always edit it because it is YouTube and I don't want my channel shut down, but I'm still there doing it living my naked life and sharing it with others doing completely innocuous things.  I have one video on the local nude beach, and that's really the only mention of nudism other than my intro video in which I explain why I'm generally nude and my idea of nudism. Sometimes I'll stick a warning screen on the front of the video so as not to surprise anyone.

So I would encourage ALL of you to put yourselves out there: share the idea with your friends, family, and coworkers. Do your best to create content that expresses the best ideals of this lifestyle in ways that will appeal to new people. 

I've introduced so many people to the concept of nudism that I lost count long ago, I'm 43, I've still (hopefully) got a long way to go and I expect to continue to spread my thoughts and feelings on the joy of nudism for whatever time I have left. After I'm gone in another 40-60 years, I hope my content lives on and is shared by the next generation.

All that said, if I had the money, I'd absolutely make some movies, shows, games, comics, etc that treated nudity as an everyday occurrence.  That could just be a brand signature. Sadly, spending my life working for non profits makes that money thing a bit elusive.  😕 So Twitter, Tumblr, BlueSky, and YouTube are my venues for free content publishing.

Twitter @IntrepidFreedom
BlueSky @absolutefreedom.bsky.social
Tumblr @AbsoluteFreedom001 -
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