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Title: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 09, 2021, 01:09:09 am
All comments, questions, concerns, etc to be put here.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Longingtobenude on October 09, 2021, 02:12:33 am
I'm looking forward to my 40th so I can post this clip again. 

https://youtu.be/4M2vx_RCwSs
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 09, 2021, 02:28:16 am
I guess I expected to be on borrowed time when I joined but then I saw people who were up to 50 still here and felt a sense of relief that up until now members who turned 40 were able to stay if they were valued contributors.

I have joined free range pretty much soon after here where I first heard of it but it’s not active, inspiring or varied in discussion as is here, like. Got politely told to keep topic to purely naturism when I mentioned something about railways or something. I think another admin once commented he joined and left but I may be wrong.

I’ve also been a member of true nudists for about 20 years, in a fakebook group with rl friends and moderate a mewe group with them too. None have been as interesting and engaging as IYNO. Joined oh naturist yesterday to see what it’s like… not impressed so far. I’m running out of options.

But the forum was intended for 14-40 and I knew that from the start. In the end it’s up to the owners/ admins what the rules are. We’ve got a good bunch in here and I hope you’ll all join free range and make it as fun as here with the 18-40 year olds managing accounts on both.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: timnudist on October 09, 2021, 02:46:41 am
if you ask me its kind of creepy to hang on talling to younger naturists.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Octavia on October 09, 2021, 02:49:20 am
This is a long overdue move and I support it 100%.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 09, 2021, 02:49:37 am
if you ask me its kind of creepy to hang on talling to younger naturists.

Understandable. What age limit do you think it should be?
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 09, 2021, 02:56:50 am
I guess I expected to be on borrowed time when I joined but then I saw people who were up to 50 still here and felt a sense of relief that up until now members who turned 40 were able to stay if they were valued contributors.

I have joined free range pretty much soon after here where I first heard of it but it’s not active, inspiring or varied in discussion as is here, like. Got politely told to keep topic to purely naturism when I mentioned something about railways or something. I think another admin once commented he joined and left but I may be wrong.

I’ve also been a member of true nudists for about 20 years, in a fakebook group with rl friends and moderate a mewe group with them too. None have been as interesting and engaging as IYNO. Joined oh naturist yesterday to see what it’s like… not impressed so far. I’m running out of options.

But the forum was intended for 14-40 and I knew that from the start. In the end it’s up to the owners/ admins what the rules are. We’ve got a good bunch in here and I hope you’ll all join free range and make it as fun as here with the 18-40 year olds managing accounts on both.

My personal feelings on Free Range is that they need to welcome in a few admins/moderators. Especially since I think they are only ran by 2. But, we want someone to suggest as well to move on to. And, of course, we can't suggest TN as they are just terrible.

Considering on what those 2 talked on, they should welcome conversations on other topics. Not just on nudism.

Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 09, 2021, 03:11:07 am
I guess I expected to be on borrowed time when I joined but then I saw people who were up to 50 still here and felt a sense of relief that up until now members who turned 40 were able to stay if they were valued contributors.

I have joined free range pretty much soon after here where I first heard of it but it’s not active, inspiring or varied in discussion as is here, like. Got politely told to keep topic to purely naturism when I mentioned something about railways or something. I think another admin once commented he joined and left but I may be wrong.

I’ve also been a member of true nudists for about 20 years, in a fakebook group with rl friends and moderate a mewe group with them too. None have been as interesting and engaging as IYNO. Joined oh naturist yesterday to see what it’s like… not impressed so far. I’m running out of options.

But the forum was intended for 14-40 and I knew that from the start. In the end it’s up to the owners/ admins what the rules are. We’ve got a good bunch in here and I hope you’ll all join free range and make it as fun as here with the 18-40 year olds managing accounts on both.

My personal feelings on Free Range is that they need to welcome in a few admins/moderators. Especially since I think they are only ran by 2. But, we want someone to suggest as well to move on to. And, of course, we can't suggest TN as they are just terrible.

Considering on what those 2 talked on, they should welcome conversations on other topics. Not just on nudism.

I don’t know… I’ve struggled to make contributions I’m looking through their forums now and nothing stands out that I feel I could contribute to. I stopped even looking in there after a couple of months as it got to a point where it seemed to be the same few older guys talking about a their own nudist activities in their own region.


if you ask me its kind of creepy to hang on talling to younger naturists.

Understandable. What age limit do you think it should be?

And honestly @timnudist when I first joined for those early weeks or months I really felt self conscious about how a mid 30s joining fresh would be perceived until my interactions were all appearing to be positive  I never had any complaints and being the youngest member of a naturist club that is mainly 50-70 year olds felt the and change and energy refreshing.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Infinity Biscuit on October 09, 2021, 04:31:18 am
I had thought this was already policy, so I'm happy to see it be the case now
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: timnudist on October 09, 2021, 05:39:29 am
if you ask me its kind of creepy to hang on talling to younger naturists.

Understandable. What age limit do you think it should be?

When I joined Dannee ran the show and the cut off was 35... ppl had the good grace to leave before they embarassed themselfs.. over 35 have tons of options where the 14 yo has only this...how are u supposed to feel like you can be open an honest if ppl your parents age are watching.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 09, 2021, 05:53:58 am
if you ask me its kind of creepy to hang on talling to younger naturists.

Understandable. What age limit do you think it should be?

When I joined Dannee ran the show and the cut off was 35... ppl had the good grace to leave before they embarassed themselfs.. over 35 have tons of options where the 14 yo has only this...how are u supposed to feel like you can be open an honest if ppl your parents age are watching.

I think you might have your ages wrong. I was here before you and it was 40.

Actually, I thought you mentioning this looked familiar. Even @Wesley told you last time that wasn't the case. Please don't be spreading false information.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Delta on October 09, 2021, 06:50:04 am
When it comes to covering an entire generation, it is kind of inevitable that between the oldest and youngest members, the age difference is large enough to include a parent-child relationship in here. The reason we are introducing a cutoff age now is largely because we are approaching the point where the gap between the oldest and youngest members could feasibly account for a grandparent/grandchild relationship.

But yes, I do not want to rule out the possibility that there may have been a little variance in the top end of the age range in the past; I do not remember the details. But I am fairly certain that it was always somewhere around the age of 40. That was the case when Stuart and Karla, two members from the early days of IYNO, who joined our staff at about the same time I did, decided to lead by example and leave back in 2013/2014, setting up a forum without an upper age limit that we would end up directing people older than our target demographic to. Danee in fact encouraged them to stay, but they were concerned we would risk our youth focus if members who grew out of our target audience would stick around forever.

You might be mixing things up with YNAI, a community that is now defunct after several sudden changes in ownership. I believe their upper age limit was a bit lower than ours, but I am not sure, had not been very active there for several years before the site went offline.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: JustARando on October 09, 2021, 09:44:36 pm
As a 29 yo, I feel awkward talking to kids half my age and I'm sure this awkwardness goes both ways. Also, I feel older people tend to dominate conversations. This should be a safe space for younger people.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: JoyousLemons on October 10, 2021, 03:50:46 am
As a 29 yo, I feel awkward talking to kids half my age and I'm sure this awkwardness goes both ways. Also, I feel older people tend to dominate conversations. This should be a safe space for younger people.

I completely agree. It's just weird talking with people that are nearly triple my age
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: carbon on October 10, 2021, 03:57:13 am
I'm not even 30 and yet I already feel like a boomer :laughcrying:
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Starlit on October 10, 2021, 09:10:22 am
I'm not even 30 and yet I already feel like a boomer :laughcrying:

Yeah I'm 25 and already don't feel like I have a lot in common with a 15 year old. Their life and the things that matter to them are probably quite different to mine!

I support what's been announced but its kind of easy for me to say cos I'm young enough that it doesn't affect me and also I'm old enough that I don't feel concerned about older members on the forum.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: boris on October 11, 2021, 07:35:58 am
well from my point of view i see the "banning" of the older members here problematic.
especially in regard of the invitation to the sister board https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php (https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php) as written here https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new (https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new). this will cause a split up of this board. and it might lead to some reduction of action here.

i have been a mod on a german speaking board, similar to this one and we were in the same situation years before. we had lots of yearlong - and very active - members who grew out of the age range. so we made a new board for old ones (where also younger were able to join) and kicked them out of the youth forum. the result was a bit surprising and annoying. both forums were getting more and more calm and bland.
so we decided to reunite the two boards and make a seperate section for teens only. and the effect is still visible. the action was increasing very quick and still lasting.

maybe this could be an idea for this board as well to make different zones for only young and for all ages togehter. from my experience i can tell that in our board there are lots of discussions between older and younger members that keeps the forum alive. and from different points of view all can take some profit to get to know other thoughts.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Dogoegma on October 11, 2021, 11:37:59 am
well from my point of view i see the "banning" of the older members here problematic.
especially in regard of the invitation to the sister board https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php (https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php) as written here https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new (https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new). this will cause a split up of this board. and it might lead to some reduction of action here.

i have been a mod on a german speaking board, similar to this one and we were in the same situation years before. we had lots of yearlong - and very active - members who grew out of the age range. so we made a new board for old ones (where also younger were able to join) and kicked them out of the youth forum. the result was a bit surprising and annoying. both forums were getting more and more calm and bland.
so we decided to reunite the two boards and make a seperate section for teens only. and the effect is still visible. the action was increasing very quick and still lasting.

maybe this could be an idea for this board as well to make different zones for only young and for all ages togehter. from my experience i can tell that in our board there are lots of discussions between older and younger members that keeps the forum alive. and from different points of view all can take some profit to get to know other thoughts.

I agree. I feel like the main impetus for an age restriction is the need to focus the conversation to youth issues. I don’t think that requires one to be young to do so, but an easy method of forcing it is to use such a policy. The main issue with doing so is a massive loss of population in an already small community, not to mention the loss of valuable input and wisdom. I can empathize with such a policy, but I don’t think it is very wise in the long run.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: cdw on October 11, 2021, 01:05:00 pm
well from my point of view i see the "banning" of the older members here problematic.
especially in regard of the invitation to the sister board https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php (https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php) as written here https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new (https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new). this will cause a split up of this board. and it might lead to some reduction of action here.

i have been a mod on a german speaking board, similar to this one and we were in the same situation years before. we had lots of yearlong - and very active - members who grew out of the age range. so we made a new board for old ones (where also younger were able to join) and kicked them out of the youth forum. the result was a bit surprising and annoying. both forums were getting more and more calm and bland.
so we decided to reunite the two boards and make a seperate section for teens only. and the effect is still visible. the action was increasing very quick and still lasting.

maybe this could be an idea for this board as well to make different zones for only young and for all ages togehter. from my experience i can tell that in our board there are lots of discussions between older and younger members that keeps the forum alive. and from different points of view all can take some profit to get to know other thoughts.

I agree. I feel like the main impetus for an age restriction is the need to focus the conversation to youth issues. I don’t think that requires one to be young to do so, but an easy method of forcing it is to use such a policy. The main issue with doing so is a massive loss of population in an already small community, not to mention the loss of valuable input and wisdom. I can empathize with such a policy, but I don’t think it is very wise in the long run.


To be fair, there is also a relatively steady amount of people joining and at some age you're going to get to a point where you're not so interested in youth issues any more.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: boris on October 11, 2021, 01:32:39 pm
To be fair, there is also a relatively steady amount of people joining and at some age you're going to get to a point where you're not so interested in youth issues any more.
what i forgot to mention before. as a dad of a 13 year old it's quite interesting for me to get to know opinions of the youngers here. always a help to learn from the point of view of the youth.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Wesley on October 11, 2021, 03:56:31 pm
maybe this could be an idea for this board as well to make different zones for only young and for all ages together. from my experience i can tell that in our board there are lots of discussions between older and younger members that keeps the forum alive. and from different points of view all can take some profit to get to know other thoughts.

I agree. I feel like the main impetus for an age restriction is the need to focus the conversation to youth issues. I don’t think that requires one to be young to do so, but an easy method of forcing it is to use such a policy. The main issue with doing so is a massive loss of population in an already small community, not to mention the loss of valuable input and wisdom. I can empathize with such a policy, but I don’t think it is very wise in the long run.

The option to segment various age groups into their own categories was definitely discussed, and considered. But several reasons contributed to us believing this is not the right approach for our forum. To begin with, the existing segments (Teenz Only, Guy Talk, Girl Talk) show us that if segmented sections become available, a lot of members will be more active in their section than in the remainder of the forum. The second, and most important reason, is that we are a community trusted and known to provide a safe, moderated, online space where young naturists can freely communicate and get to know each other. Our moderation policy is lead by this established trust and as such, we do not proactively monitor private messages or feel the need to restrict a 30 year old member from messaging someone half their age.

I strongly believe that the forum we have thrives on this trust and feeling of community, and a larger number of members does not directly result in a better forum. You're right in stating that a cutoff age results in members leaving (either due to being forced to leave or by making the decision themselves). But I strongly believe that this results in younger members forming a better connection with the community in the long run. One that is more welcoming, more comfortable, more safe. I don't want to start a discussion about safety and how this ties to age brackets, so the only link that I'll explain is that age group segmentation is actively enforced by every active and thriving naturist federation in the real world.

The very intent behind this forum from the start is to focus on a younger age bracket, one that is significantly lower than the average age of naturists around the globe. I'm happy we are able to welcome such a large number of members and have an active community, and will continue to do so for the years to come.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 11, 2021, 09:50:23 pm
well from my point of view i see the "banning" of the older members here problematic.
especially in regard of the invitation to the sister board https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php (https://freerangenaturism.com/forum/index.php) as written here https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new (https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,31870.msg0/topicseen.html#new). this will cause a split up of this board. and it might lead to some reduction of action here.

i have been a mod on a german speaking board, similar to this one and we were in the same situation years before. we had lots of yearlong - and very active - members who grew out of the age range. so we made a new board for old ones (where also younger were able to join) and kicked them out of the youth forum. the result was a bit surprising and annoying. both forums were getting more and more calm and bland.
so we decided to reunite the two boards and make a seperate section for teens only. and the effect is still visible. the action was increasing very quick and still lasting.

maybe this could be an idea for this board as well to make different zones for only young and for all ages togehter. from my experience i can tell that in our board there are lots of discussions between older and younger members that keeps the forum alive. and from different points of view all can take some profit to get to know other thoughts.


The sister board is just that, creating a separate space for people as they get older, but they already know people from this area so they can move some place together.

As far as the age as a whole, it's nothing new that we suggest free range. Even mentioned in the site rules here: https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,69.0.html

Remember, this is International "Young" Naturists. Not International "Feels Young" Naturists and we've heard numerous points through the years. The core of this is all that there are not too many places that legit naturists in a young age can go. Almost all nudist/naturist groups and pages out there are 18+, so already if you are below that, you feel like you don't have anywhere to go. On top of that, many nudist/naturist websites out there can often times offer a...hmm..."awkward" sense of being there. 18 year olds getting inappropriate comments from people much older then them. And their demographic being out shined by people 60/70+.

And sure, there are plenty of places where minors that share those ideals can talk about it, but many of them usually devolve into sharing "dick pics" (and yes, I use boys specifically since it's more rare for girls to do it) which is more exhibitionist then nudist/naturist. So, for ones that are looking for a legit place to go, vastly limited.

As far as the activity level even if we did create a separate section just for 40+ year olds, look at it this way. There are roughly 50 "active" accounts that are over 40. I say active based upon their login history of logging in less then 6 months ago. Chop that down to roughly half of that for the ones that still talk. So thus, you are left with about 20-25 people that have said something within the past 6 months. How active would that make a section? Can just look at Guy Talk and see the level of activity which is pretty low and has a much larger amount of people with access to it. Free Range is also currently sitting at a little over 300 members.

Like we mentioned in the main post, this won't be easy, and we recognize the change for a lot of people. But we don't need another inactive board, and we need a place where the worlds youth has somewhere to go. As we get older, there are many places we can go.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Turbo_ on October 11, 2021, 10:01:20 pm
Would this rule also apply to the moderators?
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 11, 2021, 10:04:48 pm
Would this rule also apply to the moderators?

More then likely. I'm the closet one to the rule, so that would still be 4 more years till I hit 42. My goal has been to bring in a couple people that we believe would make good fits. I was the one that pushed for @Sofia for example and she has done an excellent job.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Turbo_ on October 11, 2021, 10:11:05 pm
Would this rule also apply to the moderators?

More then likely. I'm the closet one to the rule, so that would still be 4 more years till I hit 42. My goal has been to bring in a couple people that we believe would make good fits. I was the one that pushed for @Sofia for example and she has done an excellent job.

I like the way you guys are setting things up. You still got some time left lol
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Sofia on October 11, 2021, 10:49:10 pm
Would this rule also apply to the moderators?

More then likely. I'm the closet one to the rule, so that would still be 4 more years till I hit 42. My goal has been to bring in a couple people that we believe would make good fits. I was the one that pushed for @Sofia for example and she has done an excellent job.

Thanks but I know I have a lot to learn and with your help I can someday take some pressure of you @DrgHybrid
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Turbo_ on October 11, 2021, 10:59:30 pm
Would this rule also apply to the moderators?

More then likely. I'm the closet one to the rule, so that would still be 4 more years till I hit 42. My goal has been to bring in a couple people that we believe would make good fits. I was the one that pushed for @Sofia for example and she has done an excellent job.

Thanks but I know I have a lot to learn and with your help I can someday take some pressure of you @DrgHybrid

How long have you been a mod?
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: boris on October 12, 2021, 06:28:30 am
I agree. I feel like the main impetus for an age restriction is the need to focus the conversation to youth issues. I don’t think that requires one to be young to do so, but an easy method of forcing it is to use such a policy. The main issue with doing so is a massive loss of population in an already small community, not to mention the loss of valuable input and wisdom. I can empathize with such a policy, but I don’t think it is very wise in the long run.
the more users will not be here anymore, the more threads and posts in the forum gets like written anonymously. so it might be a way to unpersonality...

The option to segment various age groups into their own categories was definitely discussed, and considered. But several reasons contributed to us believing this is not the right approach for our forum. To begin with, the existing segments (Teenz Only, Guy Talk, Girl Talk) show us that if segmented sections become available, a lot of members will be more active in their section than in the remainder of the forum. The second, and most important reason, is that we are a community trusted and known to provide a safe, moderated, online space where young naturists can freely communicate and get to know each other. Our moderation policy is lead by this established trust and as such, we do not proactively monitor private messages or feel the need to restrict a 30 year old member from messaging someone half their age.

I strongly believe that the forum we have thrives on this trust and feeling of community, and a larger number of members does not directly result in a better forum. You're right in stating that a cutoff age results in members leaving (either due to being forced to leave or by making the decision themselves). But I strongly believe that this results in younger members forming a better connection with the community in the long run. One that is more welcoming, more comfortable, more safe. I don't want to start a discussion about safety and how this ties to age brackets, so the only link that I'll explain is that age group segmentation is actively enforced by every active and thriving naturist federation in the real world.

The very intent behind this forum from the start is to focus on a younger age bracket, one that is significantly lower than the average age of naturists around the globe. I'm happy we are able to welcome such a large number of members and have an active community, and will continue to do so for the years to come.
as long as there are no complaints about harassment i don't see the need for restriction of pms or in the forum.
the obvious frugal use of the teens only zone just shows, it is no problem for the youngers to have a wider age bracket.

The sister board is just that, creating a separate space for people as they get older, but they already know people from this area so they can move some place together.

As far as the age as a whole, it's nothing new that we suggest free range. Even mentioned in the site rules here: https://internationalyn.org/forum/index.php/topic,69.0.html

Remember, this is International "Young" Naturists. Not International "Feels Young" Naturists and we've heard numerous points through the years. The core of this is all that there are not too many places that legit naturists in a young age can go. Almost all nudist/naturist groups and pages out there are 18+, so already if you are below that, you feel like you don't have anywhere to go. On top of that, many nudist/naturist websites out there can often times offer a...hmm..."awkward" sense of being there. 18 year olds getting inappropriate comments from people much older then them. And their demographic being out shined by people 60/70+.

And sure, there are plenty of places where minors that share those ideals can talk about it, but many of them usually devolve into sharing "dick pics" (and yes, I use boys specifically since it's more rare for girls to do it) which is more exhibitionist then nudist/naturist. So, for ones that are looking for a legit place to go, vastly limited.

As far as the activity level even if we did create a separate section just for 40+ year olds, look at it this way. There are roughly 50 "active" accounts that are over 40. I say active based upon their login history of logging in less then 6 months ago. Chop that down to roughly half of that for the ones that still talk. So thus, you are left with about 20-25 people that have said something within the past 6 months. How active would that make a section? Can just look at Guy Talk and see the level of activity which is pretty low and has a much larger amount of people with access to it. Free Range is also currently sitting at a little over 300 members.

Like we mentioned in the main post, this won't be easy, and we recognize the change for a lot of people. But we don't need another inactive board, and we need a place where the worlds youth has somewhere to go. As we get older, there are many places we can go.
i just can follow your thoughts. and it is good to be a "young" nudist forum. but i just wanted to show the problems that may and will occur. even if it's only 20 or 25 active user going out of here.
as the alternative board is quite quiet and and very few active members, i don't know if it will be an option for me...

but nevertheless i wish this forum and its members all the best for the future. i will not be here very long anymore. if you wanna stay in contact just hit me up for skype or what ever...
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Delta on October 12, 2021, 07:25:54 pm
If I may add my two cents:

IYNO has always been a youth community for naturists as much as it has been a naturist community for young people. That is the whole reason we have the dorm, an area for sex talk was pretty much inspired by the advice columns found in some youth magazines. Definitely not a typical feature for a naturist community, but one that is quite common in a youth community.

We have been fairly tolerant of members outside our target age range in the past. Particularly long-standing members were welcome to stay, to sort of not let the family drift apart. But I also feel a lot of that was due to denial that life goes on, that doors always close and others open, that familiar people move away and new friends appear in our lives. Some people left setting signs - like Stuart and Karla deciding to end their membership here and found Free Range Naturism, or Pisco transferring ownership of the site to Wesley. Others just faded away - including Danee, who was at times the biggest advocate for keeping the family together, has been away from this community for the past four years. Things change, and we need to face that, or we will not remain a youth community for long.

For advice on how not to do it, just look at any established physical naturist club. Often, lots of their members will be people who were young in the summer of '69 or something along those lines, and who embraced social nudity back then. And now, look at the clubs that always stuck to their own. Sex, Drugs and Rock'n'Roll has long made way for marriage, heart medication and 60s hits. This is not the future we envision for this community.

Luckily, we have had a steady influx of members all across our target age range, and it really makes me happy that it is often the younger and mid-range members that are driving a lot of the activity here. So yes, cutting off some of the older members might cost us some activity in the short term, but we will still have plenty of community left, and I do expect that by making sure this place stays welcoming for the young adults of tomorrow, keeping our eyes on the future, rather than the past, will be a net benefit in the long run.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: NudistMetalHead on October 25, 2021, 12:09:03 pm

My personal feelings on Free Range is that they need to welcome in a few admins/moderators. Especially since I think they are only ran by 2. But, we want someone to suggest as well to move on to. And, of course, we can't suggest TN as they are just terrible.

Considering on what those 2 talked on, they should welcome conversations on other topics. Not just on nudism.

Just recently joined over there and the trouble I'm having is that there is only conversation on naturism and literally nothing else.  They could do with discussion on other topics.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 25, 2021, 02:39:46 pm

My personal feelings on Free Range is that they need to welcome in a few admins/moderators. Especially since I think they are only ran by 2. But, we want someone to suggest as well to move on to. And, of course, we can't suggest TN as they are just terrible.

Considering on what those 2 talked on, they should welcome conversations on other topics. Not just on nudism.

Just recently joined over there and the trouble I'm having is that there is only conversation on naturism and literally nothing else.  They could do with discussion on other topics.

Not only that is it’s mostly a few less than five people talking about their personal area and naturist opportunities. I would say it needs more active people but I think there’s a lot going on in pm too, again likely the same few who post on the board
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 26, 2021, 05:39:49 am
I guess I expected to be on borrowed time when I joined but then I saw people who were up to 50 still here and felt a sense of relief that up until now members who turned 40 were able to stay if they were valued contributors.

I have joined free range pretty much soon after here where I first heard of it but it’s not active, inspiring or varied in discussion as is here, like. Got politely told to keep topic to purely naturism when I mentioned something about railways or something. I think another admin once commented he joined and left but I may be wrong.

I’ve also been a member of true nudists for about 20 years, in a fakebook group with rl friends and moderate a mewe group with them too. None have been as interesting and engaging as IYNO. Joined oh naturist yesterday to see what it’s like… not impressed so far. I’m running out of options.

But the forum was intended for 14-40 and I knew that from the start. In the end it’s up to the owners/ admins what the rules are. We’ve got a good bunch in here and I hope you’ll all join free range and make it as fun as here with the 18-40 year olds managing accounts on both.

I did message Karla there asking her if she might be willing to make a post on there that explains that all topics are welcomed, just as long as it falls in line with their rules. I hope this helps for that anyways, but I can't make any promises since obviously we don't have any sway there.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 26, 2021, 04:34:54 pm
I guess I expected to be on borrowed time when I joined but then I saw people who were up to 50 still here and felt a sense of relief that up until now members who turned 40 were able to stay if they were valued contributors.

I have joined free range pretty much soon after here where I first heard of it but it’s not active, inspiring or varied in discussion as is here, like. Got politely told to keep topic to purely naturism when I mentioned something about railways or something. I think another admin once commented he joined and left but I may be wrong.

I’ve also been a member of true nudists for about 20 years, in a fakebook group with rl friends and moderate a mewe group with them too. None have been as interesting and engaging as IYNO. Joined oh naturist yesterday to see what it’s like… not impressed so far. I’m running out of options.

But the forum was intended for 14-40 and I knew that from the start. In the end it’s up to the owners/ admins what the rules are. We’ve got a good bunch in here and I hope you’ll all join free range and make it as fun as here with the 18-40 year olds managing accounts on both.

I did message Karla there asking her if she might be willing to make a post on there that explains that all topics are welcomed, just as long as it falls in line with their rules. I hope this helps for that anyways, but I can't make any promises since obviously we don't have any sway there.

Well I’ve got another 4 years before I have to start rapping up this account so there’s time yet, we’ll see how it progresses over there. Worst comes to the worst I delete both but that’s a decision to make later
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: DrgHybrid on October 31, 2021, 10:36:27 pm
Messages are going out now and this will be officially in effect. Again, if any questions can be asked here or by messaging myself or any other staff member.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Dario Western on October 31, 2021, 10:51:21 pm
The Free Range Naturism forum is nowhere near as varied or interesting as this one.  Needs a bit of work.



Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on October 31, 2021, 11:21:37 pm
The Free Range Naturism forum is nowhere near as varied or interesting as this one.  Needs a bit of work.

It’s only a couple of regular posters too and limited to their local areas. Doesn’t leave opportunities for input from others. Maybe it could liven up with more talking members.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: NudistMetalHead on November 01, 2021, 12:04:31 pm
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on November 01, 2021, 04:14:05 pm
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.

And hopefully before you turn 40
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Dogoegma on November 01, 2021, 09:41:57 pm
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.

Maybe a link between the two would be valuable, where posts on the "linked" topics would be mirrored to mirrored to each other. Perhaps it could be its own subboard?
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: iHateClothes on November 01, 2021, 10:16:48 pm
I signed up for FRN. We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on November 01, 2021, 10:31:39 pm
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.

Maybe a link between the two would be valuable, where posts on the "linked" topics would be mirrored to mirrored to each other. Perhaps it could be its own subboard?

I’m not sure how that would work. If it meant that the over 40s of FRN were able to see posts on IYNO then it would be a certain no no
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Dogoegma on November 01, 2021, 10:42:14 pm
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.

Maybe a link between the two would be valuable, where posts on the "linked" topics would be mirrored to mirrored to each other. Perhaps it could be its own subboard?

I’m not sure how that would work. If it meant that the over 40s of FRN were able to see posts on IYNO then it would be a certain no no

It would only mirror that specific topic/subboard. Hence, those who wished to communicated across boards would be allowed to do so, specifically through that specific subboard. I am not suggesting that it be visible directly.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: NudistMetalHead on November 02, 2021, 11:54:27 am
I hope improvements can be made to the FRN forum.  Because right now if you asked me if I thought it was a companion forum to this one, I would highly disagree.

And hopefully before you turn 40

And if FRN can't make the necessary changes, then my hope would be that another forum crops up that is a true older sibling (in a manner of speaking) to this forum.  Until then, I'll continue here.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Brendarella on November 12, 2021, 05:20:26 pm
Well, it had to happen.

It was Danee herself who asked me to join the IYNO forum.  She was a wonderful person who I met on another naturist discussion board and she was impressed enough with my contributions to invited me to join up here.  She thought I would bring some fresh, new ideas for topics and to add a level of maturity to some of the discussions. I pointed out that the IYNO already categorised me as being “too old” to join but she said that the mods have the discretion to allow older members to join under certain circumstances.  So I went ahead and signed up.

I was a little dubious at first, but once I have joined I was overwhelmed with the positivity, excitement, diversity and energy that I found on this forum. Everyone here was warm, welcoming, nonjudgemental and eager to contribute. This is exactly what a naturist forum should be like.

That was four years ago, and since then I have tried to contribute new topics  which I hoped others would find stimulating and interesting. I tried to vary the topic subjects but always kept the focus on naturism in some form or another. I’m pleased to say that according to the forum’s own statistics, my topics have received over 1 million views.  In fact, three of top 10  “Most Viewed“ topics on the forum were started by me.

I understand the reason for all this, of course. The mods need to focus on the purpose of the group. And if that includes the purging of older members, then that's what must happen.  But I can’t help thinking that this dogma of excluding ALL existing members over an arbitrary age is depriving the forum of some of its most productive contributors.

I joined Free Range Naturism, the “no age-limit version“ of IYNO, but in all honesty it’s just a barren wasteland compared to this place. It only has a fraction of the number of members that are on here.

It's with a heavy heart that I am forced to leave the IYNO.  I feel like the family dog that’s being taken out into the field at the back of the house and shot in the head because it's too old to be of any further use to the family that it loved.   

I wish you all well.  I've made many friends on here and even chatted with them on other forums.  If anyone wants to contact me once I'm gone, I've set up a dedicated email (brendarella@tanglecat.com), where you can still reach me.

So, as the IYNO turns off the life support system for its older members, they will slowly lose permissions one by one, such as the ability to participate in any part of the forum, or to create a topic or comment on one, or send or receive messages or images, and eventually, they see the IYNO as untouchable. 

Just remember that one day, this will become your fate, too.
Title: Re: Age Limit discussion
Post by: Fishandchips on November 13, 2021, 09:17:55 am
Regarding @Brendarella what she says is absolutely right and as for FRN I am becoming more furious with that site and their hand full of old bangers who have their own thing going on in there and no other participants @iHateClothes made an intro post and I can’t say I’m surprised to see that the topic was hijacked by two members talking nonsense and here’s part of the response I got when I mentioned it

Fishand chips, It IS definitely a hijacking!
I'd like to see Ihateclothes start a thread discussing his dreams of one day starting a nude something, or other.  You know, how to go  about doing that, the goals, business model, or other motivation and sustaining quality. We've never discussed much of that.

As for the topic currently at hand. I'll stick to my like-clockwork, morning refuse dump that my mostly raw pescetarian diet gives me.



Edit: I originally began this post under the impression that Breda had been deleted, it turns out not the case but I thought it had because for some reason I was been unable to send a pm her from her profile