International Young Naturists Organisation
General Talk (primarily non-naturist) => The Hobby Hut => Topic started by: Interested Nudist on July 12, 2020, 12:29:18 am
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Is there anyone else out here that likes coding or software development. Its a good career to pursue since it can be done almost entirely from home and pays well too. So if you had this job it would make it possible to be naked almost all the time if you wanted to so that is a bonus. Besides, it really unlocks your creative potential and encourages critical thinking.
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Is there anyone else out here that likes coding or software development. Its a good career to pursue since it can be done almost entirely from home and pays well too. So if you had this job it would make it possible to be naked almost all the time if you wanted to so that is a bonus. Besides, it really unlocks your creative potential and encourages critical thinking.
Hey there! Indeed it could be done from home and some companies do, however, most companies still prefer their software dev team on-site. I am also in the comp sci industry. Are you?
Btw I'm really interested to be able to work from home and be naked most of the time due to that :D Besides that working remotely I could also hop into a cafe to do my work if I wanted a change as well. Hopefully I'll find a job that does just that!
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I am also in the comp sci industry. Are you?
Bruh I'm 16. I'm not in any industry.
But seriously, I am interetsed in com science and you could take up freelancing jobs as a programmer. They usually pay well and you never have to worry about working on site in a company. Although, I would persoanlly prefer the stability of a job, I wouldn't mind having these other sources of passive income.
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Yeh it's really fun, I wanna do it at uni :)
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I just finished up my computer sci degree, and I really enjoyed it. Like Catbug said though, most companies still want their development or IT team on site, although that could change due to the pandemic with people in the tech industry proving they can work from home. As for why the companies want their teams to come in, it becomes a lot easier to maintain security protocols when everyone’s on the same network and using devices issued by the company.
Not to mention working from home is kind of a lonely affair in all honesty. For some people, it works better for them. As an example, my partner was often able to get a full day’s worth of work done in a few hours because there was no one around to bug him. Whereas in my case, I definitely like going into an office because A) I like being able to easily talk things through with my team members if I have questions and B) I have a tendency to get easily distracted by various things, so being away from home helps me keep my focus on my work.
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I've been working from home for a couple years now. I'm nude as much as I want to be. Not a bad gig. :computerabuse
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I've been programming for quite a while now and have also just finished my computer science degree. Programming is really fun but you have to make sure you keep learning and keep it fresh else it can get stale. Doing 3 years at uni learning OOP can get a bit repetitive at times :laughcrying:
I agree it's a good career that you can get in to, there is so much flexibility!. I watch a programmer on YouTube (Jake Wright) and apparently they can work remote, so he once went to berlin for a couple days to work from there. So it's definitely a job where you could be nude whilst doing it. Though I'm yet to come across a naturist programmer :rotfl2:
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Though I'm yet to come across a naturist programmer :rotfl2:
You never know. Anyone could be a naturist programmer, they just don't let anyone else know. :laughcrying:
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I am also in the comp sci industry. Are you?
Bruh I'm 16. I'm not in any industry.
But seriously, I am interetsed in com science and you could take up freelancing jobs as a programmer. They usually pay well and you never have to worry about working on site in a company. Although, I would persoanlly prefer the stability of a job, I wouldn't mind having these other sources of passive income.
Oops my bad, I didn't notice ???? But one thing for sure is make sure you are really interested in it and not going in for the perks. I knew a few in uni who went into comp science cause of x reasons and most of them did not enjoy their degree.
BTW another mistake of mine I'm in the comp science field but not in the industry yet (I planned to be). Am doing a PhD now. I must be really tired yesterday writing the post.
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In a geeky sense, a naturist programmer could be someone who doesn't dress their code up in comments... :confused :laughing
Lol. I guess. Although comments are very useful in code not just to let other people understand it better but also for you understand what the fuck you wrote in there three months ago. Comments can really clarify some confusing parts of the code.
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In a geeky sense, a naturist programmer could be someone who doesn't dress their code up in comments... :confused :laughing
Lol. I guess. Although comments are very useful in code not just to let other people understand it better but also for you understand what the fuck you wrote in there three months ago. Comments can really clarify some confusing parts of the code.
Comments are most certainly useful. I’m also most certainly bad about thoroughly commenting my code the moment that a deadline starts approaching. I tell myself that I should go back to it, but then I just have to move on and get the next thing done. Learn from my mistakes :laughing
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Comments are most certainly useful. I’m also most certainly bad about thoroughly commenting my code the moment that a deadline starts approaching. I tell myself that I should go back to it, but then I just have to move on and get the next thing done. Learn from my mistakes :laughing
Hey, when a deadline is approaching, all that matters is that the code works! Commenting is always good and important, but sometimes, it's just more important to get the project done on time.
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Comments are most certainly useful. I’m also most certainly bad about thoroughly commenting my code the moment that a deadline starts approaching. I tell myself that I should go back to it, but then I just have to move on and get the next thing done. Learn from my mistakes :laughing
Hey, when a deadline is approaching, all that matters is that the code works! Commenting is always good and important, but sometimes, it's just more important to get the project done on time.
Hit the nail on the head there my friend! I’d much rather give you working code than something that may or may not be functional with impeccable comments. :laughcrying:
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In a geeky sense, a naturist programmer could be someone who doesn't dress their code up in comments... :confused :laughing
Lol. I guess. Although comments are very useful in code not just to let other people understand it better but also for you understand what the fuck you wrote in there three months ago. Comments can really clarify some confusing parts of the code.
Haaaa.. Learn that the hard way. I was like what in the world was I doing?
But till now I still don't have the habit of writing meaningful comments :confused
Maybe as @Conjuam said its the naturist part of me xD
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@CatBug Well hopefully you get used to commenting on your code. It's very useful to do and a good practice. The more you do it, the more you will get used to it.
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I used to work as a programmer ages ago at Amazon and Intel. I loved it. Programmers are critical thinkers, which usually makes them open minded.
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Is there anyone else out here that likes coding or software development. Its a good career to pursue since it can be done almost entirely from home and pays well too. So if you had this job it would make it possible to be naked almost all the time if you wanted to so that is a bonus. Besides, it really unlocks your creative potential and encourages critical thinking.
I'll be doing Computer Science at Uni in September, I'm really looking forward to it. I can code in Python, PHP and JS.
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I’m majoring in Computer Science, but I’m definitely not a programming at the moment
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I’m majoring in Computer Science, but I’m definitely not a programming at the moment
Awesome, what languages do you know?
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I wanted to learn programming but I'm not that good at math... :sad:
There's less maths in programming than you think, it's mostly about logic rather than numbers. If you haven't learned programming before, I'd recommend SoloLearn.com.
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I wanted to learn programming but I'm not that good at math... :sad:
I am doing programming as well (as a PhD student) and am bad with maths. I guess maths would greatly help with some algorithm thinking but not compulsory. As long you're not working with complex graphical vectors or stuff it should be alright.
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I'm studying right now to become one so yeah, soon enough I hope if all goes well :D
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Did programming for two years in high school and hated it so no lol
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Did programming for two years in high school and hated it so no lol
well, it's not for everyone for many reasons :) hating it is a really good reason not to xD
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anyone programing in java?
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anyone programing in java?
Me ???? but I'm a beginner still
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anyone programing in java?
I spent a lot of time learning java and I got a good grasp of many of the key concepts of that language
now I am learning python and then later C++
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anyone programing in java?
I’ve done a little bit of Java programming actually! I personally really like the language, as to me, I feel like it’s more structured than Python but easier for me to understand than C++. I think I just prefer object oriented styles of programming, and Java does structure it in such a way that it’s easy to separate your various objects and then create the necessary methods that allow them to interact.
My love for Java could also be due to the fact that I learned C++ when I was still kinda struggling to get a good grasp on how to program, and then a lot of best programming practices started clicking for me around the time I learned Java so :confused
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I'm not entirely sure I count, I've in the last year started learning coding and game design. I have a very basic understanding of the basics of using Python and I've glanced at HTML but that's about it.
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I'm not entirely sure I count, I've in the last year started learning coding and game design. I have a very basic understanding of the basics of using Python and I've glanced at HTML but that's about it.
That counts in my book! Everyone has to start somewhere, and Python and HTML are some good places to start if I do say so myself. Best of luck on your learning journey!
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I'm not entirely sure I count, I've in the last year started learning coding and game design. I have a very basic understanding of the basics of using Python and I've glanced at HTML but that's about it.
That counts in my book! Everyone has to start somewhere, and Python and HTML are some good places to start if I do say so myself. Best of luck on your learning journey!
Python especially; far more readable than other languages such as C++ or Java
Seconded, it's so versatile as well, it's used for machine learning and backends as well. I love it.
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JavaScript is my jam. :afro:
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JavaScript is my jam. :afro:
Javascript is really good. You can design your own web applications if you become proficient in it enough.
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JavaScript is my jam. :afro:
Javascript is really good. You can design your own web applications if you become proficient in it enough.
I though java sucked? That's what my teacher told me
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JavaScript is my jam. :afro:
Javascript is really good. You can design your own web applications if you become proficient in it enough.
I though java sucked? That's what my teacher told me
Java and JavaScript are(confusingly) unrelated languages
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Here is a summary of the main programming languages:
Java is a very powerful language and is used for android development.
Javascript is used for web development
Python is great language for getting into machine learning because of its powerful abilities
C++ is used in the gaming industry and gives you total control over your computer. Doesn't even question is what you are about to run might break your computer. Assumes you know what you are doing.
C#, which is be used for applications and websites too, with html on the front and c# behind
Block Code is used to provide a very simplified version of coding for younger people, since syntax is no longer a problem. Meant to teach the logic of coding
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Also there's C#, which can be used for applications and websites too, with html on the front and c# behind. I think that's what my dad uses for his job, I get the impression is quite a big one too
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Also there's C#, which can be used for applications and websites too, with html on the front and c# behind. I think that's what my dad uses for his job, I get the impression is quite a big one too
Oh yeah, almost forgot about that one. It is pretty important too. I'll add it to the list
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Ooh, what an interesting topic.
I'm also a programmer. Learned a bit of java and C#, but I somehow got shifted to working with databases, business intelligence, and analytics. Right now I'm trying to learn R and Python for machine learning.
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Here is a summary of the main programming languages:
Java is a very powerful language and is used for android development.
Javascript is used for web development
Python is great language for getting into machine learning because of its powerful abilities
C++ is used in the gaming industry and gives you total control over your computer. Doesn't even question is what you are about to run might break your computer. Assumes you know what you are doing.
C#, which is be used for applications and websites too, with html on the front and c# behind
Block Code is used to provide a very simplified version of coding for younger people, since syntax is no longer a problem. Meant to teach the logic of coding
C# is also used for games. Its Unity's programming language which I am using. Well.. I guess any language can be used for games to some extend :P
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C# is also used for games. Its Unity's programming language which I am using. Well.. I guess any language can be used for games to some extend :P
Yeah, python is also used in the Renpy Game Engine which is used for visual novels.
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I've always been a nerdy kid. I took up programming and web development when I was about 14 and have self-taught myself PHP/mySQL, javascript, and all the various web markup languages from that point on. It doesn't really have anything to do with my career but having a knowledge of programming and how stuff works is definitely helpful when working with any technology. My industry is Excel-heavy, and it's also not a big leap to do some programming-type things in it, so it helps.
I also help to develop and maintain a web game I've played for over a decade which runs on PHP. Plus I always seem to be finding ways to use it for myself on my personal/private website.
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I have basic knowledges about Python language. I would like to expand my skills in programming. Which languages do you all recommend?
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I have basic knowledges about Python language. I would like to expand my skills in programming. Which languages do you all recommend?
Java's a pretty good introduction to Object Oriented programming
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Is there anyone else out here that likes coding or software development. Its a good career to pursue since it can be done almost entirely from home and pays well too. So if you had this job it would make it possible to be naked almost all the time if you wanted to so that is a bonus. Besides, it really unlocks your creative potential and encourages critical thinking.
Unfortunately I’m not big brained enough for it but it looks like a really promising career with the rise of technology
Its not a big brain thingy haha. Also you said you're good at maths right? That helps alot. I suck at maths but I still can code, but I'm abit slow.
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I have build some websites for family and friends but it is all in wordpress so I cannot say I am a programmer or developer I think!
I would like to learn some coding but am now in medicine so it is not so easy to find the time to learn it - I think combination of the two skills might make me a superman who can cure every problem in the world though! :thinking:
With some html and css skill what is the next thing I should try and learn?
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I have build some websites for family and friends but it is all in wordpress so I cannot say I am a programmer or developer I think!
I would like to learn some coding but am now in medicine so it is not so easy to find the time to learn it - I think combination of the two skills might make me a superman who can cure every problem in the world though! :thinking:
With some html and css skill what is the next thing I should try and learn?
IMO you should start with the basics, like C++, then move on to stuff like java
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Not a programmer, but im in a trade program for computer hardware, networking and security
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I have build some websites for family and friends but it is all in wordpress so I cannot say I am a programmer or developer I think!
I would like to learn some coding but am now in medicine so it is not so easy to find the time to learn it - I think combination of the two skills might make me a superman who can cure every problem in the world though! :thinking:
With some html and css skill what is the next thing I should try and learn?
IMO you should start with the basics, like C++, then move on to stuff like java
Huh, I found Java to be easier to learn than C++. Guess that's just me
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I have build some websites for family and friends but it is all in wordpress so I cannot say I am a programmer or developer I think!
I would like to learn some coding but am now in medicine so it is not so easy to find the time to learn it - I think combination of the two skills might make me a superman who can cure every problem in the world though! :thinking:
With some html and css skill what is the next thing I should try and learn?
IMO you should start with the basics, like C++, then move on to stuff like java
Huh, I found Java to be easier to learn than C++. Guess that's just me
I personally feel like Java was easier for me to pick up as well honestly. Once I got used to the syntax and such, Java made it so much easier for me to understand the concepts behind object oriented programming IMO.
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I don't think there is too much difference if you start with C++ / C# or Java for learning. It's the basic concepts that you need to know.
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C++ is very much not designed to be a language that can easily be picked up. The concepts are not that different from other languages, but it has a lot more potential for working with the bare metal and getting hurt in the process, and a lot of historical baggage. A valuable skill to learn, but probably not as an intro to programming.
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I have basic knowledges about Python language. I would like to expand my skills in programming. Which languages do you all recommend?
It depends on what you want to do. If you want to go into embedded development (write software for devices) I would suggests C++ (and C for very lowlevel tasks), for Windows Desktop applications perhaps C# would be better, for Android Java or Kotlin, for Web development its good to start with php and JavaScript (also if it is possible to do it also with Java on server side).
With some html and css skill what is the next thing I should try and learn?
If you want to become more professional on websites I would suggest JavaScript (needed for scripting on the browser side) and php (for scripting on server side).
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I think that nowdays node.js is very good to know. You can make desktop apps with it with electron, you can use node.js to code server-side. Node.js also has a good package manager npm. So I will suggest node.js. It is also good way to move on from python-like languages to more advanced languages like C.
If there needs to be semicolon after command in a language, it is advanced language.
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C++ is very much not designed to be a language that can easily be picked up. The concepts are not that different from other languages, but it has a lot more potential for working with the bare metal and getting hurt in the process, and a lot of historical baggage. A valuable skill to learn, but probably not as an intro to programming.
Thanks! I think it looks like Java for me next then :coffee2
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I'm currently studying computer science and I've been taught that, once you know the different paradigms, and you know what you want to make and how to make it, then that should govern your choice of language. Hi early though, any relatively universal language like C (++/#) or Java would be best to move on to as you can use them in a great many scenarios.
We're doing C# because we are making games in Unity2D, but I'd much rather use C++ or Python because that's where my familiarity and (limited) experience lies.
A quote from my professor that always stood with me is the hardest programming language to learn is your first one. Which makes a lot of sense, because a lot of the concepts are similar between many of the more popular languages. And at that point, all you need to do is figure out the differences in syntax and such between languages A and B, which is easy enough to determine once you know what you’re looking for.
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C++ is very much not designed to be a language that can easily be picked up. The concepts are not that different from other languages, but it has a lot more potential for working with the bare metal and getting hurt in the process, and a lot of historical baggage. A valuable skill to learn, but probably not as an intro to programming.
Ironically, C++ is the language my college uses for its Computer Science 1 & 2 courses
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A bit. I like it tbh, it can be a lot of fun and it's very creative. I'm not super adept at it at the moment but I'm learning.
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C++ is very much not designed to be a language that can easily be picked up. The concepts are not that different from other languages, but it has a lot more potential for working with the bare metal and getting hurt in the process, and a lot of historical baggage. A valuable skill to learn, but probably not as an intro to programming.
Ironically, C++ is the language my college uses for its Computer Science 1 & 2 courses
isnt it really old? do people still use it for real things?
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C++ is very much not designed to be a language that can easily be picked up. The concepts are not that different from other languages, but it has a lot more potential for working with the bare metal and getting hurt in the process, and a lot of historical baggage. A valuable skill to learn, but probably not as an intro to programming.
Ironically, C++ is the language my college uses for its Computer Science 1 & 2 courses
isnt it really old? do people still use it for real things?
It is old but incredibly powerful. You have full control more or less, and it's the main language used when building larger scale applications because of its resource efficiency. Also it's fun, I'd say, lol.
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isnt it really old? do people still use it for real things?
Yes, of course, why not? C++ is state of the art for a lot of applications.
Yes, there are more modern languages, but they also have their own drawbacks. Scripting (JS, python, ...) for example is normally slower than compiled languages, and most script languages don't have strong typing and other compile time error checking that can lead to failures that aren't possible with C++.
A lot of modern languages (for example C# with .NET, Java) use managed code and a virtual machine where the code runs. This of course has some advantages like platform independent applications (but platform independent applications are also possible with C++ without a lot of work) or a little bit easier memory management - but easier memory management doesn't mean that you don't have to plan your memory management what is a big misunderstanding of a lot of people that use such languages. Yes, of course, you don't have to explicit delete your objects, but of course you have to manually empty all references that you don't need anymore because the garbage collector cannot know what you don't need in the future.
Of course in C++ you have to be more carefully when doing your memory management than on C#, Java, Python or something else, but modern C++ also has very good tools for most of the use cases to build good and reliable code.
For example some drawback of applications building based on .NET or Java is that they are slower if code is executed the first time (so the JIT-Compiler has to compile it), and that the garbage collector when activated needs ressources what can be a real problem on time sensitive applications.
Also these systems are not usable for system applications for example kernels, drivers, libraries with direct hardware access and so on.
Most open source software, operating systems and similar is written in C or C++.
At the moment there is no really good alternative for C++, I think the only interesting language for this could be Rust at the moment.
I also think that it is not bad to use C++ for learning. To learn C++ is hard, of course - but with C++ you learn how to manage your memory and to work carefully because C++ revenges on errors that other "modern" languages will ignore.
But when learing programming with C++ it is really important to learn how to code object oriented - because C++ also allows other programming styles that at the first moment seam to be easier, but will lead to more complicated code.
Which language is the best depends on the task - there is no language that is the best for all problems.
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
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Bash isn’t bad to learn
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
Which language do you use? Or how do you create programs without programming? :-)
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
Which language do you use? Or how do you create programs without programming? :-)
You do what they did in The Three Body Problem. Take three soldiers, and have one of them facing the other two. Give each of them a black flag and a white flag, and tell the one on their own that if both of the others raise white flags, they should also raise a white flag. If either or both of the others raise a black flag, they should raise a black flag. In doing, you have created an AND gate. Do the same thing to create an OR gate and a NOT gate. Expand this, overlaying each "Gate" of people until you have an ALU. From there, you can build up a basic computer, and then code directly using people
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
Which language do you use? Or how do you create programs without programming? :-)
You do what they did in The Three Body Problem. Take three soldiers, and have one of them facing the other two. Give each of them a black flag and a white flag, and tell the one on their own that if both of the others raise white flags, they should also raise a white flag. If either or both of the others raise a black flag, they should raise a black flag. In doing, you have created an AND gate. Do the same thing to create an OR gate and a NOT gate. Expand this, overlaying each "Gate" of people until you have an ALU. From there, you can build up a basic computer, and then code directly using people
Can we run Doom on people?
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
Which language do you use? Or how do you create programs without programming? :-)
You do what they did in The Three Body Problem. Take three soldiers, and have one of them facing the other two. Give each of them a black flag and a white flag, and tell the one on their own that if both of the others raise white flags, they should also raise a white flag. If either or both of the others raise a black flag, they should raise a black flag. In doing, you have created an AND gate. Do the same thing to create an OR gate and a NOT gate. Expand this, overlaying each "Gate" of people until you have an ALU. From there, you can build up a basic computer, and then code directly using people
Can we run Doom on people?
Damn I hope so. But can it run Crysis?
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Reluctantly yes. I am very tired and can't remember if I've already commented on this before. I like making programs but I do not like programming. Nothing ever goes exactly how you think it will.
Which language do you use? Or how do you create programs without programming? :-)
You do what they did in The Three Body Problem. Take three soldiers, and have one of them facing the other two. Give each of them a black flag and a white flag, and tell the one on their own that if both of the others raise white flags, they should also raise a white flag. If either or both of the others raise a black flag, they should raise a black flag. In doing, you have created an AND gate. Do the same thing to create an OR gate and a NOT gate. Expand this, overlaying each "Gate" of people until you have an ALU. From there, you can build up a basic computer, and then code directly using people
Can we run Doom on people?
Damn I hope so. But can it run Crysis?
Anything can run Crysis.
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Related on making a computer with people, vsauce has made it very succesfully in my opinion (Actually it is a brain made out of people, but I consider brain is counted as a computer)
https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo (https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo)
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Related on making a computer with people, vsauce has made it very succesfully in my opinion (Actually it is a brain made out of people, but I consider brain is counted as a computer)
https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo (https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo)
Oh awesome, I didn't know people had done it in real life, that's so cool
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Related on making a computer with people, vsauce has made it very succesfully in my opinion (Actually it is a brain made out of people, but I consider brain is counted as a computer)
https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo (https://youtu.be/rA5qnZUXcqo)
Oh awesome, I didn't know people had done it in real life, that's so cool
I absolutely love Mind Field. That may be one of my favorite episodes. I hope we someday learn something valuable from the Stilwell brain. Perhaps one day we can get more subjects to create a more complex function.
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I took programming last year in school and I was VERY bad at it 😂 I probably wont be doing that as a career!
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Well I'm a programmer, but I can't really agree with the whole working from home sentiment. Doing programming right needs a lot of concentration, setting the right mood etc. and I just can't do that if I'm sitting at the same desk where I played Factorio last night and am worrying about what else I need to clean up or improve in my home. And I definitely cannot do it on a tiny laptop screen while sitting in a noisy cafe LOL. Having an environment dedicated to the job helps a lot, and it could even be a separate room at home, but I'm not that rich yet :laughing
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I'm learning some...
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Well I'm a programmer, but I can't really agree with the whole working from home sentiment. Doing programming right needs a lot of concentration, setting the right mood etc. and I just can't do that if I'm sitting at the same desk where I played Factorio last night and am worrying about what else I need to clean up or improve in my home. And I definitely cannot do it on a tiny laptop screen while sitting in a noisy cafe LOL. Having an environment dedicated to the job helps a lot, and it could even be a separate room at home, but I'm not that rich yet :laughing
Well I miss my work from home job, the working from home part not the actual job itself but you’re right you do need to ensure you have appropriate dedicated work space which can vary depending on what you’re doing. For me in customer service it was a desktop pic on the floor, two screens balanced on the tower unit and on a DVD rack positioned in front of an arm chair lol.
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I’ve had to learn how to do it twice for different classes. Not my thing.