International Young Naturists Organisation
Naturist Resources => Blogs, Videos, Articles about Naturism/Nudity => Videos => Topic started by: Danee on June 17, 2010, 03:06:11 pm
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In the events section, one can often see various announcements of upcoming World Naked Bike ride events held all over the world.
This, is an award winning film (Philadelphia Festival of Film and Technology, USA; Wildscreen Festival UK) follows the planning and success of a most unusual political protest. The World Naked Bike ride isa protest in favour of body freedom (being happy whatever shape, colour or size you are) and challenges our dependency on oil based fuels. The film was screened in venues around the world, watched by over 100,000 people online, and broadcast on GreenTV and the Community Channel UK
World Naked Bike Ride (http://vimeo.com/11043540)
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This must be one of the best ways to raise the profile of naturism to the general public. Although it could be argued that the shock of naked people in a very public place goes against naturist values..... But its the shock factor which gets people interested and talking and so this helps to keep the issue of our consumer greed and oil dependency alive.
I took part in the naked bike ride in New Zealand and it was a fantastic experience! It has to be the fastest way to make friends :123456 There were many locals out by the street clapping and cheering us in support.
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Its Great Documentary,
Though, people need to realize this is more about one specific world naked bike ride that is taking place in London and film to document it and not so much about various world naked bike rides around the world nor its history.
But as whole its great documentary. I myself have slightly different dvd on world naked bike ride created by the cofounders. if anyone is interested in that one please let me know, i can tell you how to get hold of it.
Michael
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I myself have slightly different dvd on world naked bike ride created by the cofounders. if anyone is interested in that one please let me know, i can tell you how to get hold of it.
Michael
I'm interested!
BTW - is anyone here at IYNO interested in coordinating a group to attend a ride in the United States?
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Hi,
Thats good idea to get people in this group involved. Pacific Northwest has some active world naked bike ride. Portland last year had crazy amount of people as in thousands participate. Seattle and Vancouver, well the organizers are actually the originators of the World Naked Bike Ride. I also know that San Francisco has such along with places like Chicago.
Michael
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I'm going to be a little controversial here and say that I really don't like the world naked bike ride phenomenon. Firstly, it associates naturism with a political view, which I think is a backwards step for naturism. I don't like it when people hijack naturism to promote a particular agenda, be it animal rights, scanners at airports, oil consumption or whatever. To introduce an agenda is divisive, and naturism doesn't need it.
Secondly, I don't think its a good advert for naturism. Apart from the fact that it associates us with a political view, it does just seem to attract a bunch of gawkers and portrays us as a bunch of exhibitionists.
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I'm going to be a little controversial here and say that I really don't like the world naked bike ride phenomenon. Firstly, it associates naturism with a political view, which I think is a backwards step for naturism. I don't like it when people hijack naturism to promote a particular agenda, be it animal rights, scanners at airports, oil consumption or whatever. To introduce an agenda is divisive, and naturism doesn't need it.
Secondly, I don't think its a good advert for naturism. Apart from the fact that it associates us with a political view, it does just seem to attract a bunch of gawkers and portrays us as a bunch of exhibitionists.
While I do enjoy the WNBR and find it positive (mostly) as I think it does, generally speaking...., lessen the impact of shock of simple nudity to the audiences, many who are open minded families and such, I do see your rationale, Stuart. I do.
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I'm going to be a little controversial here and say that I really don't like the world naked bike ride phenomenon. Firstly, it associates naturism with a political view, which I think is a backwards step for naturism. I don't like it when people hijack naturism to promote a particular agenda, be it animal rights, scanners at airports, oil consumption or whatever. To introduce an agenda is divisive, and naturism doesn't need it.
Secondly, I don't think its a good advert for naturism. Apart from the fact that it associates us with a political view, it does just seem to attract a bunch of gawkers and portrays us as a bunch of exhibitionists.
I do understand Stuart's position concerning the association of naturism with a political view and I do agree with him in that regard. However, as I understand it, the WNBR is not about naturism at all, it is about car dependency and the many environmental problems associated with it. The WNBR uses nudity as a sure-fire means of getting public attention for that issue; they aren't using cycling as a means of promoting naturism.
The WNBR protesters are peaceful, orderly and attention-getting. As a result they give public protest a good name, something which gives their protest legitimacy. If there is a greater public awareness of body acceptance and/or the acceptance of public nudity as a result of the WNBR I consider that to be a positive by-product of the event, one which might have a positive downstream result for naturism itself.
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I do understand Stuart's position concerning the association of naturism with a political view and I do agree with him in that regard. However, as I understand it, the WNBR is not about naturism at all, it is about car dependency and the many environmental problems associated with it. The WNBR uses nudity as a sure-fire means of getting public attention for that issue; they aren't using cycling as a means of promoting naturism.
I'm not sure the public makes that distinction, especially when naturist outlets such as ourselves make a big deal of it.
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I do understand Stuart's position concerning the association of naturism with a political view and I do agree with him in that regard. However, as I understand it, the WNBR is not about naturism at all, it is about car dependency and the many environmental problems associated with it. The WNBR uses nudity as a sure-fire means of getting public attention for that issue; they aren't using cycling as a means of promoting naturism.
I'm not sure the public makes that distinction, especially when naturist outlets such as ourselves make a big deal of it.
Do we make too much of it? I guess I had not seen it that way. I understand that the local nudist club in Halifax, NS is the organizing body for the event there but I have no firsthand info about past rides. Maybe I will go this year. I can have "environmentalist" painted across my boobs and "not here to promote a naturist agenda" painted on my back. That should confuse the issue sufficiently.
Still, I think the idea of a couple of thousand otherwise normal people proceeding through city streets naked and orderly is a good thing. It lets the public see that we aren't shagging in the bushes at every corner and gets them used to the idea that not everyone need look like an underwear model.
Here is a thought. Wouldn't if be a laugh if a WNBR participant was pulled over and cited for not wearing a helmet but no mention was made of the fact that the person was otherwise naked.
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Do we make too much of it?
"Too much" is a subjective term, but many nudists are very quick to associate themselves with it, which only reinforces the image of naturists as "tree-hugging hippy" types.
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Hi,
Thats good idea to get people in this group involved. Pacific Northwest has some active world naked bike ride. Portland last year had crazy amount of people as in thousands participate. Seattle and Vancouver, well the organizers are actually the originators of the World Naked Bike Ride. I also know that San Francisco has such along with places like Chicago.
Michael
Since I'm a 'senior citizen' here (LOL - couldn't help it) and and NOT an Admin or Mod or anything like that, I hesitate to push this any further. I think it would be fantastic to have an IYNO group going to one of the big rides! If we coordinate, we could share cost on rooms, expenses, etc.
I also think it would ROCK (http://im-smiley.com/imgs/character/character061.gif) (http://im-smiley.com) if various groups of IYNO members went to various big rides around the world.
I want to try for the Northwest United States rides like Seattle (because they are so well accepted there and so heavily attended).
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Stuart,
Thanks for your comments and concerns. I do know that the cofounders of World Naked Bike Ride are actual naturists. They are active in trying to get nude beaches in greater Seattle Area. Also one of the cofounders is also promoting nude gardening. The logic behind reasoning behind naked bike ride and naturism was kinda extension of cofounders beliefs. They tend to be closer to well nature, naturism isnt to far different from wording of naturist. They started bike ride in ways to promote clean forms of transportation. Also combining nude ride also is way to get attention. Realize that Pacific Northwest in USA and Canada tends to be bit more libral than rest of USA. Nudity isnt as taboo. The Seattle Freemont Solstice Parade is famous for the unoffical start of parade with naked bodypainted cyclists. So having these rides brings attention to both acceptance of nudity and clean forms of transportation.
Also cofounders are also activists. You might disagree with such, but such is needed in naturism. If it werent for activists, african americans wouldnt have civil liberties, and gay rights are becoming more accepted due to the activists. That said what might be appropriate for activists in one area might not be appropriate to another. Likewise activists should be promoting things in non threatening manner. One reason for naked bike ride is when you do things that are pro environment it gets a lot of support at least here in Pacific Northwest.
Last, feel free not to support such, but given that naturist movement has been in many ways decline with lack of younger folks, such is needed. Last year in Portland with full city support there were thousands of naked cyclists most who are younger generation participating. Todays people who dont mind being nude might not want to be called nudists or even naturists, but same time they have no problems being nude and also promoting things they believe in.
Michael
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I have a problem with the association of naturism with any political agenda. That's why I thought the organisation that endorsed the body scanners were stupid, not because of their opinion, but because they were aligning naturism with a particular viewpoint. Its divisive and a;ienates anyone who doesn't share the opinion
I've heard a few comments about the naked bike ride that describe naturists under the usual "tree hugging hippy" comments, and quite frankly I don't blame them.
Where do we draw the line?
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I have a problem with the association of naturism with any political agenda. That's why I thought the organisation that endorsed the body scanners were stupid, not because of their opinion, but because they were aligning naturism with a particular viewpoint. Its divisive and a;ienates anyone who doesn't share the opinion
I've heard a few comments about the naked bike ride that describe naturists under the usual "tree hugging hippy" comments, and quite frankly I don't blame them.
Where do we draw the line?
Do we have to draw a line? I am not unhappy being associated with environmentalism and I do my best to avoid dismissing people who knock off epithets like "tree hugging hippie." They too have the right to their own opinion. The hip thou shalt always have with you - that should be a proverb. But of course there are myriad definitions of hip. Calling someone a hippie is just a modern tag used by segments of society to dismiss people holding views unpopular with the dying generation.
But I do not believe that naturism need be yoked to environmentalism any more than it is than it is to vegetarianism. Naturism should be a house of many mansions in which you can be a solitary hill walker or a public cyclist, each treating the other with mutual respect.
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Do we have to draw a line?
I'd be annoying if the KKK started a public naturist movement.
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Wow, now wouldn't that be ironic, an organization known for its robes starting a naturist group.
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Wow, now wouldn't that be ironic, an organization known for its robes starting a naturist group.
They'd have to wear strong sunblock to make sure they stayed white.
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Do we have to draw a line?
I'd be annoying if the KKK started a public naturist movement.
:909 Best not mention FKK then, they might think them kindred spirits.
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There was comment about naturism shouldnt be part of politics or something like that
To some degree thats unrealistic. Wreck beach in Vancouver came about because of lobbing by supporters and getting involved with local politics. Historicaly nude beaches have been closed down due to new local or state laws or the interpetation of existing laws. Sad reality is if you want to get more acceptance of naturism then you need to some degree get involved with politics.
By the way its sad that politics has gotten bad name. Really people should be more political, esp in democratic forms of government. How else will leaders make laws and regulations that make nudism more acceptance.
Now as far as other things. I dont mind being considered environmentalist. Heck I have environmental science and biology degree. Accorse problem is sterotyping. Even thinking that all hippies are tree hugging is sterotype. I know many hippies who are very capitalistic, and if you saw them at first you wouldnt think they are hippies.
In the end, problem is getting rid of sterotypes, and preconcieved notions. I myself am even guilty. Reason for this is humans tend to want to group and organize things. Thats okay, but you need to be flexible to change, something sterotype isnt.
Michael
PS, this topic has gotten a bit heated. What started out as nice post about documentary. Not everyone agrees with different areas of naturism. I took partial interest in this post and few negative posts since I personaly know one of the cofounders of World Naked Bike ride. I seen what he has done to promote naturism in Pacific Northwest. So for me this post kind of brings it close to home. That said if you dont agree with my thoughts, thats totally, cool
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There was comment about naturism shouldnt be part of politics or something like that
To some degree thats unrealistic. Wreck beach in Vancouver came about because of lobbing by supporters and getting involved with local politics. Historicaly nude beaches have been closed down due to new local or state laws or the interpetation of existing laws. Sad reality is if you want to get more acceptance of naturism then you need to some degree get involved with politics.
That's not what I've said. I've said that its not good for naturism for other political viewpoints to use it, as it discourages those who hold different viewpoints frombecoming naturists.
Now as far as other things. I dont mind being considered environmentalist. Heck I have environmental science and biology degree. Accorse problem is sterotyping. Even thinking that all hippies are tree hugging is sterotype. I know many hippies who are very capitalistic, and if you saw them at first you wouldnt think they are hippies.
I would consider myself an environmentalist as well. However, I wish nothing to do with the cause the naked bike ride supports.
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Do you even know what Naked Bike Ride respresents?
PS This is a trick question
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Do you even know what Naked Bike Ride respresents?
PS This is a trick question
1. A protest against oil dependency
2. An chance to get naked in a public place
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I don´t know if people know it but the WNB movement began in my hometown (and the place where I live too): Zaragoza, Spain.
It began about 10 years ago when an association of bike riders decided to do a naked ride to demand more bike-roads in the city and to promove the use of the bike in terms of a healthy and ecologic way to move on the city.
Zaragoza is one of the biggest cities in Spain, in the same group as Bilbao, Sevilla or Valencia in terms of population (almost 1.000.000 people). So it´s still a middle-sized city where a bike can take you to from point to point in a shot amount of time.
I don´t know what are they demanding now because almost all the original demands have been heard: Lots of bike-roads through the city, a public bike-rental service with lots of stations through the city (you take a bike in one station and park it in the station near your destiny) and several improvments in urban laws to help the bikers.
I´ve never been in one of the WNB of my city (nor any other): every year I´m somewhere else. But I´d like to go to a big WNBR next year (like London). I think that, besides the ecologic message, it´s a way to normalize nudity.
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Danee,
Why don't you talk to Conrad from the World Naked Bike Ride and see if you can organize something in Florida. I would definately do it. Here's the email, I think: worldnakedbikeride@lists.worldnakedbikeride.org
Your Pal,
Chrisco
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I can't wait to take part in one of these :) Cape Town here I come :)
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I dunno why you're worried about naturism / nudism / whatever being conflated by politics via WNBR, when the WNBR isn't even a nudist event nor does it advertise itself as such. You want non-sexual nudity and body positivity normalized, then you should be glad the WNBR is allowed to exist in as many cities as it does.
I've taken part in the Chicago one since 2012. You got questions? I've got answers.
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I think everybody should be worried about the way we treat our planet and our natural environment. Being apolitical means that we don't give a stuff as to what's going on in the outside world, especially with issues that could directly impact our lifestyle. Look at how adversity has caused nudist clubs and beaches to be shut down in the past.
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I think everybody should be worried about the way we treat our planet and our natural environment. Being apolitical means that we don't give a stuff as to what's going on in the outside world, especially with issues that could directly impact our lifestyle. Look at how adversity has caused nudist clubs and beaches to be shut down in the past.
Bro, motherfuckers here didn't give a damn about the Black Lives Matter video I did with Topless Topics for that very reason, but DEFINITELY gave the second half of that stream we did, "Nudism vs Nudity" WAY more attention because oh hey, the word "nudism" was in it.
Shit's too self centered. You're right. Nudism is far too proud to live in a bubble, and that's like 95% of why it's got all the problems it has. They just don't wanna wear shit, and that's the end of it. Ironically, most nudists that I knew locally were the first to NOT even want to go to WNBR, but still wanna complain about having nowhere to be out and naked at. The fuck?
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Interesting.. .. I've heard of wnbr but never knew it began in Canada!! It surely took off and is here to stay!