Sorry Lisa, that was rude of me. And I did try WinRar. It doesn't want to extract it's own file types, keeps saying I need to unpack an earlier volume, what ever that means. And this was a direct download from WinRar. Oh well, I could try using the netbook to do it, it's running a linux OS and can extract WinRar files. Sometimes goes buggo though. I'll see. Thanks for the links anyway, I do appreciate it.